UFC Fight Night 20

[SPX]

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Honestly I hope Diaz wins for the sake of the LW division.

That way Edgar can get a title shot. Pretty sure Maynard knows he has no chance, and he has a win over Edgar.

I think Gray has a better shotat BJ that Edgar. At least Maynard is big.[/quote:374ylgus]

Well let Gray fight him and then Edgar. Then we'll get 2x as rich.

I don't think either guy has a shot. I want to see Maynard/Edgar II. I think Frankie will do better than he did the first time around.

[MMA_scientist]

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agreed, BJ will tool both. Actually, there is no one for bj to fight at all. Now I worry about his motivation to train.

[SPX]

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I won't bet Dunham. I am still considering Efrain. Can Efrain strike with Dunham?

Probably. He'll just have to get inside his reach, which he was able to do with Cole Miller. If you watch Dunham's fight with Marcus Aurelio you can see that Aurelio has a real hard time in the first round but starts to adapt after that. If Efrain's smart, he should be able to do the same thing.

Again, my problem with Efrain is that we don't have a whole lot to go on. At this point, I'd probably take Efrain at -190 or better and Dunham at +250 or better.

[Mr. IWS]

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agreed, BJ will tool both. Actually, there is no one for bj to fight at all. Now I worry about his motivation to train.

At this point, I think his only motivation is to clean out whats left at 155, and get back to GSP.

Good from a bettors standpoint I guess.

[SPX]

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So who would be LW champ if BJ wasn't around?

I'd say Edgar, Maynard, or possibly even Sherk if he can get his shit together.

[MMA_scientist]

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I think Florian would be champ if bj suddenly died. Or Maynard. Probably Maynard. I don't think Sherk can beat Maynard or Edgar. Diego is a threat to all those guys too. Florian/Maynard/Diego... That's my answer.

[SPX]

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I think Florian would be champ if bj suddenly died. Or Maynard. Probably Maynard. I don't think Sherk can beat Maynard or Edgar. Diego is a threat to all those guys too. Florian/Maynard/Diego... That's my answer.

Shit, I forgot about Florian. I'm with you on that one.

Florian = 2nd best LW in the UFC, maybe the world.

[MMA_scientist]

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I won't bet Dunham. I am still considering Efrain. Can Efrain strike with Dunham?

Probably. He'll just have to get inside his reach, which he was able to do with Cole Miller. If you watch Dunham's fight with Marcus Aurelio you can see that Aurelio has a real hard time in the first round but starts to adapt after that. If Efrain's smart, he should be able to do the same thing.

Again, my problem with Efrain is that we don't have a whole lot to go on. At this point, I'd probably take Efrain at -190 or better and Dunham at +250 or better.

I went and watched Efrain fight Cole, then watched Dunham fight Aurelio and Eklund. I dunno man... Dunham is kind of a bad ass. He has good hands. he dropped Aurelio in the first, and he dropped Eklund twice, KOing him the second time. I think he can give Efrain some problems standing. On the ground, Efrain may get the better of it, but I do not know if he will try to take it there. I trust that any Megaton brown belt can defend himself off his back.

[Mr. IWS]

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So who would be LW champ if BJ wasn't around?

I'd say Edgar, Maynard, or possibly even Sherk if he can get his shit together.

I gotta go with Florini

[SPX]

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I went and watched Efrain fight Cole, then watched Dunham fight Aurelio and Eklund. I dunno man... Dunham is kind of a bad ass. He has good hands. he dropped Aurelio in the first, and he dropped Eklund twice, KOing him the second time. I think he can give Efrain some problems standing. On the ground, Efrain may get the better of it, but I do not know if he will try to take it there. I trust that any Megaton brown belt can defend himself off his back.

I agree . . . Dunham looked pretty good. The only reason I don't feel compelled to throw a small play on his is the level of competition he's faced. Eklund is 1-2 in the UFC, with his only win coming in his match with Samy Schiavo, who is 0-2. His win over Aurelio was a split, and Aurelio is 2-4 in the UFC with his only wins being over guys I've never heard of.

So the question is: Is Dunham that good or has he just been fighting B and C level competition?

[MMA_scientist]

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Yeah, Aurelio is tough though- he has faded recently though. Efrain hasn't exactly faced a murderer's row either. I mean, Cole is decent, but he is totally B/C level.

I don't know, which is why I am staying away.

[SPX]

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Yeah, Aurelio is tough though- he has faded recently though. Efrain hasn't exactly faced a murderer's row either. I mean, Cole is decent, but he is totally B/C level.

I don't know, which is why I am staying away.

I'd say Cole is a solid B. And it's hard to say where Nover fits in at that point.

Eklund is a C fighter for sure. Aurelio is probably a B-.

[zY|]

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This fighter level alphabet sounds totally scientific.

[SPX]

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This fighter level alphabet sounds totally scientific.

I applied the scientific method in order to determine the assigned letters.

[MMA_scientist]

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I do not even know what the "scientific method" means... I just know a B when I see one.

I guess its more art in that sense... MMA Artist is kind on redundant... so I went with scientist