UFC 109 Discussion

[zY|]

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I just rewatched the Kos/Thiago fight because I'm bored and not doing shit tonight.

I think you should perhaps rewatch it SPX. Koscheck lands maybe 2 right hands. I say maybe because I'm not even sure one of them landed. Besides that it was a very even fight with jabs, left kicks, and blocked or missed strikes. Of course it only took one uppercut for Thiago.

Rogan and Goldie do nothing but hype up Kos as the next Chuck Liddell the whole fight and shit on Thiago's striking, even though Kos isn't the most technically sound himself. Pretty biased.

[zY|]

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You're not on the Rolles bandwagon that everyone else seems to be riding?

He's probably going to win because he's fighting a glorified toughman, but I sure as hell don't like him at -475. He's a Gracie, probably trains BJJ exclusively.

[MMA_scientist]

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You're not on the Rolles bandwagon that everyone else seems to be riding?

He's probably going to win because he's fighting a glorified toughman, but I sure as hell don't like him at -475. He's a Gracie, probably trains BJJ exclusively.

yeah but bjj only > bar brawling only.

See UFC 1 - 4 for confirmation.

[MMA_scientist]

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[quote=MMA_scientist]

You're not on the Rolles bandwagon that everyone else seems to be riding?

He's probably going to win because he's fighting a glorified toughman, but I sure as hell don't like him at -475. He's a Gracie, probably trains BJJ exclusively.

[/quote:4mab9yla]

yeah but bjj only > bar brawling only.

See UFC 1 - 4 for confirmation.



Also, i think performity is kind of a hack. I know that is blasphemy... I just think a lot guys are better.

[zY|]

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[quote=MMA_scientist]

You're not on the Rolles bandwagon that everyone else seems to be riding?

He's probably going to win because he's fighting a glorified toughman, but I sure as hell don't like him at -475. He's a Gracie, probably trains BJJ exclusively.

yeah but bjj only > bar brawling only.

See UFC 1 - 4 for confirmation.[/quote:36pxio65]

You like him at -475?

[SPX]

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Also, i think performity is kind of a hack. I know that is blasphemy... I just think a lot guys are better.

I made a similar statement and was mildly assaulted for it. He seems to be good at doing research and assembling facts, but is pretty hit and miss when it comes to really using those facts to figure out who's going to win a fight.

[SPX]

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I just rewatched the Kos/Thiago fight because I'm bored and not doing shit tonight.

I think you should perhaps rewatch it SPX. Koscheck lands maybe 2 right hands. I say maybe because I'm not even sure one of them landed. Besides that it was a very even fight with jabs, left kicks, and blocked or missed strikes. Of course it only took one uppercut for Thiago.

Rogan and Goldie do nothing but hype up Kos as the next Chuck Liddell the whole fight and shit on Thiago's striking, even though Kos isn't the most technically sound himself. Pretty biased.

I'll check it out again when I get some time. I'm open to the possibility that I may be wrong.

[zY|]

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Also, i think performity is kind of a hack. I know that is blasphemy... I just think a lot guys are better.

I made a similar statement and was mildly assaulted for it. He seems to be good at doing research and assembling facts, but is pretty hit and miss when it comes to really using those facts to figure out who's going to win a fight.

He is a bonafide, card-carrying, BJ Penn nuthugger, that's for sure.

[MMA_scientist]

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Also, i think performity is kind of a hack. I know that is blasphemy... I just think a lot guys are better.

I made a similar statement and was mildly assaulted for it. He seems to be good at doing research and assembling facts, but is pretty hit and miss when it comes to really using those facts to figure out who's going to win a fight.

That's pretty much my assessment. His win/loss is not that impressive. He went like 5 events without turning a profit.

[MMA_scientist]

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Did you make the super parlay? Or are you waiting for the $5

[SPX]

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That's pretty much my assessment. His win/loss is not that impressive. He went like 5 events without turning a profit.

Someone said the other day on the Junkie boards that if you add it all up he hasn't made a profit in, like, a year.

[zY|]

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That's pretty much my assessment. His win/loss is not that impressive. He went like 5 events without turning a profit.

Someone said the other day on the Junkie boards that if you add it all up he hasn't made a profit in, like, a year.

LOL.

Can you find it? Link?

[SPX]

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Did you make the super parlay? Or are you waiting for the $5

SuperParlay!

I haven't done it yet. I figured I'd wait until tomorrow to see who all wants in on it. If it's just me and you, then I'd be happy to throw the $5 up. But I know Zak said something about wanting in, too. So if he's going to jump in then we might as well all throw $5 in a piece.

[SPX]

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Can you find it? Link?

http://mmajunkie.com/news/17165/perform ... fc-107.mma

Almost all the way down you'll find this:

hey everyone
i'm on penn this weekend as well as a decent play on struve

BUT i've got to say i really dislike the constant excuses -P keeps making for recent bad results. in case no one has realised -P is -3.49 units overall for the past 16 events - since UFC 91 in November 2008.

That is a pretty bad record - losing money on a consistent basis for over a YEAR!

And thats only on the junkie.com predictions. On the twitter account he also recommended plays on Houston and Hammil last week. Could those fights have been called any worse? Hammil got absolutely tooled!

Saying things like - "i was on the right side of the bet, even when losing" - although true, are pretty frustrating to read. If that is a defence to bad handicapping, then what about the losing bets, where you were also on the wrong side of the bet too? - Luiz cane at 106 or Forrest Griffin at 101 for example. You recommended a 0.5 unit play on Griffin at +300 therefore suggesting he had a better than 25% chance of winning that fight. We all saw what happened and in reality his chances of winning were probably closer to 10%. You were therefore on the wrong side of the bet even in losing.

It therefore works both ways, you cant keep saying your unlucky.

Anyway, hopefully the picks this week will start to turn things round. the 3 favourites seem good safe picks and Kongo looks like a decent shout too. Good luck

[zY|]

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Can you find it? Link?

http://mmajunkie.com/news/17165/perform ... fc-107.mma

Almost all the way down you'll find this:

hey everyone
i'm on penn this weekend as well as a decent play on struve

BUT i've got to say i really dislike the constant excuses -P keeps making for recent bad results. in case no one has realised -P is -3.49 units overall for the past 16 events - since UFC 91 in November 2008.

That is a pretty bad record - losing money on a consistent basis for over a YEAR!

And thats only on the junkie.com predictions. On the twitter account he also recommended plays on Houston and Hammil last week. Could those fights have been called any worse? Hammil got absolutely tooled!

Saying things like - "i was on the right side of the bet, even when losing" - although true, are pretty frustrating to read. If that is a defence to bad handicapping, then what about the losing bets, where you were also on the wrong side of the bet too? - Luiz cane at 106 or Forrest Griffin at 101 for example. You recommended a 0.5 unit play on Griffin at +300 therefore suggesting he had a better than 25% chance of winning that fight. We all saw what happened and in reality his chances of winning were probably closer to 10%. You were therefore on the wrong side of the bet even in losing.

It therefore works both ways, you cant keep saying your unlucky.

Anyway, hopefully the picks this week will start to turn things round. the 3 favourites seem good safe picks and Kongo looks like a decent shout too. Good luck

LOL!

Pretty funny. P has a great response to that guy, but the numbers don't lie. I didn't actually go and confirm, but the guy underneath P who tries to defend him basically does the exact opposite and confirms the number.

To be fair though, these are just his recommendations at whatever shit line is around at fight time. Still though.