UFC 115 discussion/odds

[SPX]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

Cmon, I want to see a vid win, lose or draw.

Oh, we'll see. I at least have to look good, even if it's in defeat.

Apparently there are three aspects to TKD tournament competition:

1. Forms/Patterns/Kata (whatever you want to call it)
2. Sparring
3. Breaking

. . . and I have to learn them all.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

(not counting HW- though I still can't think of any).

Frank Mir

Or is he not world class?

[SPX]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

I've never heard of Kenny Monday.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

I will give a copy of an HD DVD of American Ninja 2 to anyone that can give me 3 examples of a world class bjj practioner being controlled by a wrestler on the mat (not counting HW- though I still can't think of any).

I like that back handed confidence in the contest.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

HOW BOUT OUR BOY GETTING TOOLED BY JOEY BELTRAN?

edit, forget he is a HW.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

How bout GSP controlling Serra in the second fight.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

Oh, Scientist, one more thing regard judo/bjj for self defense. . .

At least in my limited experience, I've found that three moves will work in 90% of situations against an untrained opponent:

1. Hip toss to get them to the ground. It's an easy throw that puts you on top, where you can transition to the mount and start laying down punches.

2. If they reach up to block your arms, grab one and transition to an arm bar.

Or. . .

3. If they manage to spin around and give up their back, rear-naked choke.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

How about

Kazushi Sakuraba-Royce Gracie

Kazushi Sakuraba-Royler Gracie

Kazushi Sakuraba-Renzo Gracie

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

STFU. You guys know damn good and well who Kenny Monday is. I was actually thinking of Kevin Jackson though.

seriously whos Kenny Monday and why should I know who he is?

He is an olympic gold medalist in freestyle wrestling.

I confused him with Kevin Jackson, who is probably the greatest American wrestler to ever compete in MMA (he was also a godl medalist). Jackson got armbarred from guard in like 20 seconds by Frank Shamrock.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

How about

Kazushi Sakuraba-Royce Gracie

Kazushi Sakuraba-Royler Gracie

Kazushi Sakuraba-Renzo Gracie

LMFAO!

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

How about

Kazushi Sakuraba-Royce Gracie

Kazushi Sakuraba-Royler Gracie

Kazushi Sakuraba-Renzo Gracie

Kasushi Sakuraba is not a wrestler, he is a catch wrestler. If you had said trained in Pro Wrestling, I would give it to you.

Royce and Renzo are not world class grapplers. Royce is probably about an average blackbelt. Royler probably weighs 135-140. Still Royler was world class, and I would count it IF Sak was a wrestler.

Oh, and Royce beat Sakuraba.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

Jackson got armbarred from guard in like 20 seconds by Frank Shamrock.

I rented that shit on PPV when I was a kid. I was still new to the whole grappling thing, I didnt know what the fuck happened.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

Explain to me exactly what catch wrestling is. . .

I always took it as a "style" of wrestling like greco, freestyle, etc.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

How about

Kazushi Sakuraba-Royce Gracie

Kazushi Sakuraba-Royler Gracie

Kazushi Sakuraba-Renzo Gracie

Kasushi Sakuraba is not a wrestler, he is a catch wrestler. If you had said trained in Pro Wrestling, I would give it to you.

Royce and Renzo are not world class grapplers. Royce is probably about an average blackbelt. Royler probably weighs 135-140. Still Royler was world class, and I would count it IF Sak was a wrestler.

Oh, and Royce beat Sakuraba.

Oh nvm. He's going to be a politician about anyone you pick.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 115 discussion/odds

Oh nvm. He's going to be a politician about anyone you pick.

I noticed that, too.