Strikeforce Los Angeles June 16th Card

[SPX]

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Well yeah duh . Would you expect someone that was a -500 favorite that lost to be -500 again?

I don't. That's exactly my point.

I imagine it will open around -350 or -300, but I could be wrong and am curious to see what it's gonna be.

[Luke]

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Werdum FTW.

Believe it.

I think this play warrants half your bankroll.

I raise


I say bet your whole bankroll on Werdum

All in

[SPX]

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I agree

Cung got cocky in round 3 and gassed trying to do stupid things when he was already tired .Thats why he lost imo

i just cant see the line being that high(-400) but I've been wrong plenty of times before

I would like to point out one of the things that caused to be on Smith the first go around: Cung hasn't really fought much of anyone in terms of MMA. Smith was probably his most legit opponent, unless you count a broken down Frank Shamrock.

So he's largely untested in the sport and his wins have come over--I hate to use this term--cans.

Not only that, but we now see he has cardio issues.

[MMA_scientist]

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Werdum FTW.

Believe it.

I think this play warrants half your bankroll.

I am definately going to be on Werdum (assuming he is +400 like he will be).

I don't believe in super-fighters. Fedor has been in trouble in a lot of his fights. He is going to lose soon.

I like Fedor... but its all over come June.

[Luke]

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I agree

Cung got cocky in round 3 and gassed trying to do stupid things when he was already tired .Thats why he lost imo

i just cant see the line being that high(-400) but I've been wrong plenty of times before

I would like to point out one of the things that caused to be on Smith the first go around: Cung hasn't really fought much of anyone in terms of MMA. Smith was probably his most legit opponent, unless you count a broken down Frank Shamrock.

So he's largely untested in the sport and his wins have come over--I have to use this term--cans.

Not only that, but we now see he has cardio issues.

I wouldnt say cardio issues.I'm sure he could go 5 rounds if he didnt use so many kicks.It takes alot more out of you to throw those massive kicks than it does to punch someone.

[SPX]

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I am definately going to be on Werdum (assuming he is +400 like he will be).

I don't believe in super-fighters. Fedor has been in trouble in a lot of his fights. He is going to lose soon.

I like Fedor... but its all over come June.

Fedor may lose soon, but it's not going to be to Febricio Werdum.

This isn't much more than a tune up fight for Fedor, in my opinion. Arlovski was a much more dangerous opponent. THAT'S a fight that Fedor could lose and he was in fact losing up until the KO.

[Luke]

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I like Fedor... but its all over come June.

Not unless he's fighting JDS,Lesnar,Carwin or Cain and someone didnt tell me.


Werdum isnt going to be the one to take out Fedor .It will take a top A rated fighter and I dont consider Werdum one

[SPX]

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I wouldnt say cardio issues.I'm sure he could go 5 rounds if he didnt use so many kicks.It takes alot more out of you to throw those massive kicks than it does to punch someone.

Aren't his kicks pretty much his thing, though?

[Mr. IWS]

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Fedor has been in trouble in a lot of his fights. He is going to lose soon.

Im coming around on this as well. I dont think Werdum will beat him, but I wouldnt be shocked if he did. When the matchup was first rumored, I was all over Fedor, but I think the end of his run is coming real soon.

All this shady, behind the scenes shit with Finklehorn, Finklestien, whatever. I swear, they are trying to bleed more money out of Coker/Showtime before the end comes, because if the guy who changes tires at Sams club can do work the way he did, whats Overeem and Werdum gonna do. This whole contract renegotiation is some BS IMO. Because when Fedor loses, M1 is out of buisness the next day.

I think Ubereem might be the guy. I wanna see how he looks in the states with some testing. If he runs through Bert Rogers, I will be real interested in a Overeem/Fedor line.

If he looks good, Im on Reem over Fedor.

[Luke]

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I wouldnt say cardio issues.I'm sure he could go 5 rounds if he didnt use so many kicks.It takes alot more out of you to throw those massive kicks than it does to punch someone.

Aren't his kicks pretty much his thing, though?

Yeah its his thing .I was just saying kicks take more juice than punches.Because he does mostly kicks he'll never be able to go 5 rounds in MMA

[zY|]

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I feel Fedor may be coming to the end of his run soon as well. But what the hell is Werdum going to do to him?

[SPX]

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I feel Fedor may be coming to the end of his run soon as well. But what the hell is Werdum going to do to him?

Not shit.

He's definitely not going to knock Fedor out and he won't get the chance to submit him.

Werdum goes to sleep just like he did against JDS.

[zY|]

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[quote=IWS Zak]

Fedor has been in trouble in a lot of his fights. He is going to lose soon.

Im coming around on this as well. I dont think Werdum will beat him, but I wouldnt be shocked if he did. When the matchup was first rumored, I was all over Fedor, but I think the end of his run is coming real soon.

All this shady, behind the scenes shit with Finklehorn, Finklestien, whatever. I swear, they are trying to bleed more money out of Coker/Showtime before the end comes, because if the guy who changes tires at Sams club can do work the way he did, whats Overeem and Werdum gonna do. This whole contract renegotiation is some BS IMO. Because when Fedor loses, M1 is out of buisness the next day.

I think Ubereem might be the guy. I wanna see how he looks in the states with some testing. If he runs through Bert Rogers, I will be real interested in a Overeem/Fedor line.

If he looks good, Im on Reem over Fedor.[/quote:z2ebabox]

The thing with Overeem is I'm pretty sure he's a frontrunner. If you hit him really hard in the face he starts swerving all over the road pretty much immediately, and he'll crumple shortly after. I think Fedor blasts him out of the park. Overeem should kick Rogers' ass but don't be surprised if Bart lands one on his chin and he explodes.

[zY|]

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I feel Fedor may be coming to the end of his run soon as well. But what the hell is Werdum going to do to him?

Not shit.

He's definitely not going to knock Fedor out and he won't get the chance to submit him.

Werdum goes to sleep just like he did against JDS.

Pretty much. The best Werdum can hope for is to take him down and positionally dominate him. I just don't see it though. Even if he gets him down, Fedor is far too explosive and adept at exploiting openings. He's going to hurt Werdum pretty badly.

[Luke]

Re: Strikeforce Los Angeles June Card

KJ Noons and Robie Lawler confirmed on this card also