UFC 117

[poopoo333]

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OK, how would you compare the following three guys at WW:

Matt Hughes, Jon Fitch, Jake Shields?

1.Fitch
2.Shields
3.Hughes

Yeah, I think that's the consensus. My follow up would be: Are the gaps between these fighters as large as people seem to think? and then "How much can we learn about Alves/Fitch from Alves/Hughes?"

Umm, Hughes wasn't as aggressive as I think Fitch will be with TDs, and when Hughes couldn't get him down right away, he went ahead and pulled guard. That is all I can think of right now.

[Thewiseman]

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I dont even think you can compare Hughes and Fitch at this point in thier careers. Fitch has decent striking to go along with his takedowns, Hughes standup is horrible.

[MMA_scientist]

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I think Hughes would give some problems to Fitch and Shields. I actually think he might beat Shields.

In terms of overall ability:

Fitch is #1 because he has striking and a chin to go along with his wrestling and GJJ
Shields is #2 because he is younger and has more juice on his shot. But his striking might be worse than Matt's.
Hughes is #3 because he is losing his takedown ability. Prime Hughes would beat Shields IMO. I think he might still be able to put him on his back where he is not dangerous at all.

[poopoo333]

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Just watched Sonnen/Marquardt. I never realized how good Sonnen looked in that fight. He was on Marquardt like white on rice.

[Mr. IWS]

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Just watched Sonnen/Marquardt. I never realized how good Sonnen (R-Or) looked in that fight. He was on Marquardt like white on rice.

I know. That shit was brutal to watch. I lost my ass on Nate that fight.

[SPX]

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Sonnen fucked him up.

God do I wish Nate had gotten that guillotine . . . but I'm also kind of excited to see Sonnen/Silva.

[poopoo333]

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Sonnen (R-Or) fucked him up.

God do I wish Nate had gotten that guillotine . . . but I'm also kind of excited to see Sonnen/Silva.

Sonnen is going to win

[Mr. IWS]

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Sonnen (R-Or) is going to win

[ManBoobKilla]

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am I the only one that thinks that Shields would beat Fitch?

[Mr. IWS]

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If I were betting that, I would probably bet Fitch, but I wouldnt be suprised at all if Shields won.

[MMA_scientist]

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I think Fitch would whup Jake's ass.

Jake's game is totally dependent upon him having top position. I think Fitch would put him on his back, stuff his takedown attempts, and beat him on his feet.

[Luke]

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Sonnen (R-Or) fucked him up.

God do I wish Nate had gotten that guillotine . . . but I'm also kind of excited to see Sonnen/Silva.

Sonnen (R-Or) is going to win

You are crazy

[poopoo333]

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Sonnen (R-Or) fucked him up.

God do I wish Nate had gotten that guillotine . . . but I'm also kind of excited to see Sonnen/Silva.

Sonnen (R-Or) (R-Or) is going to win

You are crazy

Anderson has 5 rounds to catch a submission, Chael has 5 rounds to avoid a submission. I don't like how Chael gets comfortable in the guard, and in Silva's guard Chael will probably get caught in a triangle. But when the line hits +400, I will be on Chael. He has a wrestler's chance, and lately the wrestler's chance has been paying off better then the puncher's chance.

[zY|]

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I'm not even convinced in Chael's ability to consistently get takedowns. Sure if he gets his hands on him Silva is going down and he'll likely get 1 or 2, but Silva is faster and his takedown defense revolves around effective footwork. I see Sonnen having real problems getting in close enough to put his hands on him. He's going to get blasted eventually. His best chance is to get Anderson down early, and put such a beating on him in the first round that he wears down, gets tired, and loses speed, power, and confidence. I don't find this likely considering that Chael doesn't even try to pass guard and Anderson is great at minimizing damage from guard. It just seems like overall a terrible style matchup for Mr. Sonnen.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 117

Sonnen has more time to prepare for his fight now .He's out of the state representative's race:

Chael Sonnen no longer has to worry about his words coming back to haunt him in politics.

The middleweight contender has dropped his bid for a state representative's seat in Oregon, according to Fight magazine. Sonnen, who won the Republican primary last month for his district, cited a case related to his day job as a realtor:

[quote:2bk9lgpu]"A 2006 legal issue has arisen that needs my immediate attention. I am not at liberty to disclose the details, but my name was involved in a real estate case that requires a ruling. If the ruling is adverse, I would be disqualified from running for office until 2011. So, given that possibility, I have chosen to withdraw my name as a candidate in 2010."

Sonnen was already drawing heat for pre-fight hype ahead of his Aug. 7 bout with middleweight champion Anderson Silva at UFC 117.

Reporters in Oregon questioned Sonnen about comments issued through a Twitter account associated with him. A writer for the left-leaning Huffington Post criticized Sonnen for tweets jokingly describing Silva's manager, Ed Soares, as a primitive pagan:

"Ed [a Brazilian American MMA manager], pray to whatever Demon effigy you prance and dance in front of with your piglet tribe of savages that I decide not to crucify you"

Although Sonnen said the Twitter account was not his, a local alternative news weekly, Willamette Week, accused him of lying about it.

The political race in November might have been a close one, given that Democrats hold only a slight edge in voter registrations in Sonnen's district. Now he just has to work on living up to the trash talk that he's been hurling Silva's way since last year. [/quote:2bk9lgpu]