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  • Luke
    10 year vet
    • Oct 2006
    • 30060

    Re: UFC 117

    ^^^yep


    What about Shields?
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    • MMA_scientist
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 9857

      Re: UFC 117

      I looked at Morecraft a while back. He is a big athletic heavyweight, a Todd Duffee type. But I think the line is about right. He looks like it is an all out blitz or nothing. I did see him fight a few times... he looked good, but then again, he hasn't fought anyone. I think Struve will have superior technical striking, use his reach to tire Morecraft out and finish him in the second. Morecraft is a pure question mark after the first. I don't see an anonymous athletic HW as a coin toss with Struve. Struve may not be elite, but he is good. He has beaten some quality guys.
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      • MMA_scientist
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 9857

        Re: UFC 117

        I concur on Hallman.

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        • Luke
          10 year vet
          • Oct 2006
          • 30060

          Re: UFC 117

          No ones worried about the 6 inches height adv or the big reach adv for Saunders?
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          • SPX
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 23875

            Re: UFC 117

            Originally posted by Luke
            No ones worried about the 6 inches height adv or the big reach adv for Saunders?
            I think it has a lot more to do with we're getting 2:1 on Hallman.
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            • edman5555
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 6628

              Re: UFC 117

              Originally posted by Luke
              No ones worried about the 6 inches height adv or the big reach adv for Saunders?


              Hmm. You're right. I just looked up his height. Midget vs Giant. I have a feeling Hallman is going to be working soley for takedowns though. That is kind of his gameplan all the time. Which can work.
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              • edman5555
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 6628

                Re: UFC 117

                Marcus Davis is 6 inches shorter. That is probably why Saunders could catch him with his knees so easily. They are practially at head level when extended.
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                • edman5555
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 6628

                  Re: UFC 117

                  So who here thinks Chael sonnen can win this? I give him a small chance.
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                  • Luke
                    10 year vet
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 30060

                    Re: UFC 117

                    Originally posted by edman5555
                    So who here thinks Chael Sonnen (R-Or) can win this? I give him a small chance.

                    Anything can happen in a fight and I love to take dogs but I'm the person that doesnt take a dog unless I think he has a 50% chance of winning .I dont think Sonnen has a 50% chance of winning so its a no bet for me.

                    Am I going to bet Silva at -385? I'm still deciding that
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                    • Luke
                      10 year vet
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 30060

                      Re: UFC 117

                      Originally posted by SPX
                      Originally posted by Luke
                      No ones worried about the 6 inches height adv or the big reach adv for Saunders?
                      I think it has a lot more to do with we're getting 2:1 on Hallman.

                      I need to go watch more video on Saunders
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                      • Ludo
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 4931

                        Re: UFC 117

                        If Saunders gets Hallman into the clinch it could be a real bad night for Mighty Mouse.
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                        • Luke
                          10 year vet
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 30060

                          Re: UFC 117

                          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                          ^^ lol.

                          That's why I say that. I though Maia would win before the fight. Since Nate put him away so quickly, it left alot of questions. So I have to go with what I thought would happen before they fought...

                          It is a lot like the Fedor/Werdum fight or the Mir/Kongo fight. They happened too fast, and I don't think any of the 3 could replicate the performance, but least of all, Nate.

                          I agree .Thats what I meant
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                          • poopoo333
                            MMA *********
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 18302

                            Re: UFC 117

                            I think @+200 or better, Hallman has value. But I hope Saunders wrecks him, I like Saunders a lot. But I might put a small bet on Hallman, I have to watch Saunders' fights again, and some more of Hallman's if I can find them.

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                            • MMA_scientist
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 9857

                              Re: UFC 117

                              Originally posted by LudoCain
                              If Saunders gets Hallman into the clinch it could be a real bad night for Mighty Mouse.
                              That is really the only spot I see a lot of danger for Hallman. Hallman knows that though... hopefully he well take his steroids before the fight (Hallman has been busted before) and Saunders will not be able to muscle him around.
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                              • sideloaded
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 572

                                Re: UFC 117

                                Originally posted by edman5555
                                So who here thinks Chael Sonnen (R-Or) can win this? I give him a small chance.
                                Well at the press conference during the stare down Anderson for the first time in his career tried to bully and intimidate Cheal. This is the first sign of weakness. Cheal has already got Anderson doing things that he isn't used to doing. Cheal is bating Anderson into fighting differently and getting him in the wrong mindset. This was the first of many signs that Cheal is truly in his head.

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