UFC Fight Night 22

[Ludo]

Re: UFC Fight Night 22

1.5u to win 2.1u on Tibau.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC Fight Night 22

Miller is a d1 wrestler and BB in Bjj that has only lost to Gray maynard and Edgar

[edman5555]

Re: UFC Fight Night 22

Most of his wins are against so so opponents though.

[Ludo]

Re: UFC Fight Night 22

Miller may have only lost to Maynard and Edgar but the rest of his resume is filled mostly with guys smaller than he is and or mid level opposition. As far as his loss to Edgar and Maynard, that doesn't really tell us much seeing as neither guy is a finishing machine or anything. Between the two of them they have 23 wins and 16 decisions.

Also, he's going to find that Tibau isn't exactly a "true" lightweight since the guy cuts like 25lbs to make weight and shit. Tibau is a solid grappler in his own right, I think this may come down to striking and I give Tibau the edge.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC Fight Night 22

I have been struggling a lot with this fight. One one hand, Tibau has solid takedowns for a bjj guy. And he is huge. On the other hand, he lost to Guillard.

Also, Stevenson and Griffin are both really similar to Miller.

I favor Miller.

[SPX]

Re: UFC Fight Night 22

But a lot of people fell like the Guillard/Tibau fight was a screw job. (I never saw it, so I don't have an opinion.) Also, Guillard seems to be an improved fighter.

With that said, I think he will probably lose to Stephens and Stephens at +140 is a good bet. That fight's a pick 'em, at best.

[Ludo]

Re: UFC Fight Night 22

But a lot of people fell like the Guillard/Tibau fight was a screw job. (I never saw it, so I don't have an opinion.) Also, Guillard seems to be an improved fighter.

With that said, I think he will probably lose to Stephens and Stephens at +140 is a good bet. That fight's a pick 'em, at best.

Honestly it's hard to pick against Guillard here. He has looked really good lately and Stephens has been the same winging style puncher he always was. He almost lost the fight against Stout. Those leg kicks were kicking his ass. I don't know if Guillard can implement his explosive striking style against Stephens without catching a shot and going to sleep but I feel like he has the speed advantage for sure. If he does get Stephens down who knows how the fight could end up. I already have 1.6u down on Guillard, if the line doesn't shift too much between now and fight time I might throw some more on him.

[SPX]

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Honestly it's hard to pick against Guillard here. He has looked really good lately and Stephens has been the same winging style puncher he always was. He almost lost the fight against Stout. Those leg kicks were kicking his ass. I don't know if Guillard can implement his explosive striking style against Stephens without catching a shot and going to sleep but I feel like he has the speed advantage for sure. If he does get Stephens down who knows how the fight could end up. I already have 1.6u down on Guillard, if the line doesn't shift too much between now and fight time I might throw some more on him.

I don't know, man.

I seem to be one of the few people who actually like Guillard in general, but I think he's going to have his hands full with this one. Stephens hits hard but I wouldn't call him a brawler. He has pretty good technique.

We'll see. It's certainly no lock. I do favor Stephens, though. My guess is this will be more of a stand-up fight and that Stephens will hit Guillard more and harder.

I do wish Guillard the best in his NEXT fight though.

[poopoo333]

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The lines aren't out yet, but I will be on Branch if his line isn't retarded. I also think Foster is going to beat Petz, but his line is going to suck for sure

[Ludo]

Re: UFC Fight Night 22

Honestly it's hard to pick against Guillard here. He has looked really good lately and Stephens has been the same winging style puncher he always was. He almost lost the fight against Stout. Those leg kicks were kicking his ass. I don't know if Guillard can implement his explosive striking style against Stephens without catching a shot and going to sleep but I feel like he has the speed advantage for sure. If he does get Stephens down who knows how the fight could end up. I already have 1.6u down on Guillard, if the line doesn't shift too much between now and fight time I might throw some more on him.

I don't know, man.

I seem to be one of the few people who actually like Guillard in general, but I think he's going to have his hands full with this one. Stephens hits hard but I wouldn't call him a brawler. He has pretty good technique.

We'll see. It's certainly no lock. I do favor Stephens, though. My guess is this will be more of a stand-up fight and that Stephens will hit Guillard more and harder.

I do wish Guillard the best in his NEXT fight though.

I like Guillard to an extent. He puts on a good fight. Stephens may not exactly fit the description of "a brawler" but he definitely doesn't like going to the ground if he can help it. My only concern here is that I'm not terribly sure that he can avoid getting clipped for fifteen minutes seeing as Stephens has never been knocked out but for that matter neither has Guillard. I just question the likelihood of Guillard finding himself hurt and reverting back into Wrestler mode. Stephens isn't great on the ground from what I've seen of him.

[doublearmbar]

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I like Cole Miller catching a triangle on Ross Pearson in the second. Am I way off base? Whats so crazy about taking all the dogs on this card and seeing what happens?

[MMA_scientist]

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The lines aren't out yet, but I will be on Branch if his line isn't retarded. I also think Foster is going to beat Petz, but his line is going to suck for sure

Those are the exact two lines I am looking for... Branch should win that and we could get a good line on him.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC Fight Night 22

I like Cole Miller catching a triangle on Ross Pearson in the second. Am I way off base? Whats so crazy about taking all the dogs on this card and seeing what happens?

I don't see how Cole can get it down

[edman5555]

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Ross P looks pretty sturdy. Cole is a skinny mofo.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC Fight Night 22

^^ Cole doesn't have great takedowns, and Ross looks like he has pretty decent takedown defense, and as you mentioned, he is just sturdy. I think Ross will knock him out. Cole gets dropped with punches all the time. Remember Dan Lauzon dropped him a couple times too (and we know about Efrain).