UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13th

[SPX]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

Bendo's days are numbered. None of those LW's are going to make a big splash IMO. I think Henderson/Varner/Cerrone will be md tier guys... but none will threaten for the title.

Who knows. Bendo is looking to me like an Edgar type . . . the little engine that could. But I do agree that there are probably no WEC LWs will threaten for the title. I'm more concerned about who among them will at least stick around and perform respectably, like Condit has been doing.

I'm also really interested to see how Pettis is going to do against Bendo. I think he definitely has a shot to win this one. He has a really interesting style. Showtime is a proper nickname.

[Svino]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

Bendo's days are numbered. None of those LW's are going to make a big splash IMO. I think Henderson/Varner/Cerrone will be md tier guys... but none will threaten for the title.

I think you're right. WEC's LWs just aren't that good in my opinion.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

I just watched Yushin/Maia ADCC match. I had no idea Yushin was that good. He had Damiens back for a little while.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

^^ that's what I have been saying, Yushin is a good ass grappler. He has a a rock base, and he won't be subbed.

He didn't actually get Maia's back though... in bjj and ADCC scoring, you have to get both hooks in to officially have the back. They also don't score the first 5 minutes of the match to encourage guys to try to finish...

But the point remains, Yushin is a top level grappler.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

Yeah I think he can take Nate down too. Leites did, Pall Harris did, Chael Sonnen did as well. ( Sonnen almost doesn't count towards the argument because he is so good). I think Yushin should be able to do it, and he can probably hold him down a bit too.

I haven't seen a lot of his fights so I don't know how good his standup is. SBJJ made some good points about it. The only thing that concerns me is Nate has power and sometimes he swings for the fences. He could catch Yushin with something, though Yushin has the takedown out. (Nate hurts him, rushes in and makes himself more susceptible to a takedown).

It seems to me like Yushin might actually have the advantage in this one. I don't know if I am BS'ing myself though. I tend to do that when I have a UDog that has a shot.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

I tend to talk myself into bets as well. And I must be pretty persuasive because I tend to talk everyone around me into the bet too.

But all along I have been saying Yushin has value. Before I thought it might be 55/45 Marquart (Yushin would still have value at the current line)... but now I think it is more 55/45 for Okami.

[sbjj]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

[quote="edman5555"]Yeah I think he can take Nate down too. Leites did, Pall Harris did, Chael Sonnen (R-Or) did as well. ( Sonnen (R-Or) almost doesn't count towards the argument because he is so good). I think Yushin should be able to do it, and he can probably hold him down a bit too.

I haven't seen a lot of his fights so I don't know how good his standup is. SBJJ made some good points about it. The only thing that concerns me is Nate has power and sometimes he swings for the fences. He could catch Yushin with something, though Yushin has the takedown out. (Nate hurts him, rushes in and makes himself more susceptible to a takedown).

It seems to me like Yushin might actually have the advantage in this one. I don't know if I am BS'ing myself though. I tend to do that when I have a UDog that has a shot.[/quote]

Yea, I sort of fear like I might be doing that also. Do not get me wrong, I think this thing is close, and Nate does have some advantages, like the explosive power. At the same time, Yushin has sort of earned enough respect from me to think that he could handle that power. But I just look at it as a REAL close fight where the play should be the dog.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

^^ Agreed. Even if Nate has an edge, it is small, and Okami is the only play, regardless of whether you think he is < 50%... you pretty much have to think he is < 35%, which is where the line has him now.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

Remember guys, Nate is good up to -500.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

Okami via decision will be a sweet payoff as well. I might split it up though, 50 percent on him to win and 50 percent on him to win via decision. I am not sure.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

I am going to go decision prop either guy to anchor an Okami by decision prop. I don't see how Okami can win except by decision.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

so your going to bet okami by Dec and Marquardt by Dec? Why not fight goes the distance? Or fight goes the distance and Okami. I might do that.

Also does anyone know a link for Noke/Lombard or Noke/Sotiropolous? I would like to see those fights.

Anyone else want to share their thoughts on the other matchups? Any breakdowns?

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

^^ no, I am going to bet fight goes the distance and okami by decision.

I am hoping the distance prop will be -170 to -200, then it will probably be +250 on the Okami decision prop

So 2 to win 1 on the distance prop, then probably .5 to win 1.5 on the okami prop

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

Yeah I am hoping he is closer to +350. I think Machida Dec will open at something nice btw. Machida/rampage goes the distance is at -125 right now, machida is at -250. I am hoping to get Machida by decision at +150 or more.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

Yushin Okami training with Team Quest.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/21289/ufc-122 ... nocent.mma