UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

[Luke]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

I was really hoping McCorkle would be smart enough to go for some GnP once he got Struve to the ground, instead of spending all that effort to submit a guy who's a good enough grappler to sweep him.

yeah me too

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

Props to GSP for working that Jab like a mutherfucker. Freddie Roach's phone must be blowing up this morning.

[YoungTRK484]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

^^^ I thought that same thing after the first round.

[Svino]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

Shields stands a way better chance of beating GSP than KOS did . Shields wont just stand in front of GSP and wait to get hit. He'll go for takedown after takedown and wont stop. GSP may spend most of the fight up against the cage defending takedowns.

I don't see Shields being able to finish many takedowns though. His only hope might be wall-and-stall, but that's never been his specialty.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

Shields stands a way better chance of beating GSP than KOS did . Shields wont just stand in front of GSP and wait to get hit. He'll go for takedown after takedown and wont stop. GSP may spend most of the fight up against the cage defending takedowns.

I don't agree at all. He has no striking, and he's so slow and unexplosive, he'll be shooting from 8 feet out and he'll never even gt close to GSP if GSP doesn't want him to and he'll just get battered. Yeah he'll be relentless if he gets georges against the cage and he might even get a takedown or two but I doth think he keeps him down or submits him. It really seems like the absolute worst imaginable style matchup for Shields.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

I will be on GSP like flys on shit.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

Shields stands a way better chance of beating GSP than KOS did . Shields wont just stand in front of GSP and wait to get hit. He'll go for takedown after takedown and wont stop. GSP may spend most of the fight up against the cage defending takedowns.

I don't agree at all. He has no striking, and he's so slow and unexplosive, he'll be shooting from 8 feet out and he'll never even gt close to GSP if GSP doesn't want him to and he'll just get battered. Yeah he'll be relentless if he gets georges against the cage and he might even get a takedown or two but I doth think he keeps him down or submits him. It really seems like the absolute worst imaginable style matchup for Shields.

What are you not agreeing with? That I said Shields stands a better chance of winning than KOS? Well KOS standing in front of GSP ,not going for TD's and not throwing anything stood a zero chance of beating GSP,obv Shields stands more than a zero chance .
Or are you disagreeing that Shields will spend most of the fight going for takedowns? Shields knows he cant stand and trade with GSP just like he couldnt with Hendo .Whether the TD's work or not I can see him trying over and over and over again.

So what are you disageeing with?

[SPX]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

^^^ Kos went for several takedowns. But I think the fact that he couldn't see out of 1 1/2 eyes and his front leg was getting kicked to shit (even to the point that it trembled at points during the fight) meant that he didn't have the physical abilities to complete it and he knew it.

This shit's all straight from Karate Kid III:

"If a man can't see, he can't fight."
"If man can't stand, he can't fight."

-- Terry Silver

[Luke]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

^^^ Kos went for several takedowns.

KOS attempted 4 TD's in 5 rounds .

[SPX]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

A few thoughts on last night. . .

1. I will NEVER forgive Danzig for what he did to me.

I officially have no chance to hit my 15u goal for the year now. If Stevenson had won I would've walked away ahead 3.5u for the night. Instead I ended up with a .75u loss. That is fucking bullshit.

How in the FUCK did Danzig knock him out?

2. Regarding the point above, it's a terrible feeling during those one or two seconds when you see a fighter you have money on fall seemingly unconscious to the mat. Most of you knows it's over . . . but there's a part of you that hopes he'll come to and start defending and the ref lets it go. And then the ref stops it and there's nothing you can do about it.

3. Howard didn't have shit for Alves. They were just on two different levels. It was a case of Howard getting too big of a fight too fast. (Speaking of that, how the fuck does the UFC justify being like, "Okay, so you just lost to . . . Jake Ellenberger. Here's an idea, how about you fight Thiago Alves?)

4. GSP brutalized Kos. It was very one-sided. But it was also the most interesting GSP fight I've seen in a long time. For the first time in a while his wrestling was shut down not just once or twice but the majority of the time. And not only that, but he got taken down himself.

He was FORCED to fight a standup fight . . . and he dominated the shit. Maybe now he won't be so fucking terrified to stand and trade with opponents.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

Fighting smart is 'terrefied'. Lol

And Luke I was disagreeing with the statement that Shields has a much better shot of winning, for the reasons I stated.

Also Kos went for way more than 4 takedowns. It's just they were so fleeting and he couldn't even iniiate a clinch that it would be tough to legitimately count them as such.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

Fighting smart is 'terrefied'. Lol

I think the Serra incident literally traumatized him mentally. Obviously he can stand and will, but I think it makes him nervous now. I really do.

Maybe that's partly because he mentions it so many times that it seems almost like a neurosis.

Also Kos went for way more than 4 takedowns. It's just they were so fleeting and he couldn't even iniiate a clinch that it would be tough to legitimately count them as such.

I also saw more than 4, but yeah, it depends on what you count as an attempt.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

And Luke I was disagreeing with the statement that Shields has a much better shot of winning, for the reasons I stated.

\.

Fair enough

[Svino]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

I would love to know what percentage of fights are won by the guy with more failed takedown attempts. I could be wrong, but bet it's more than half.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

Have fun with your armchair psychology, SPX. it's just not rooted in reality. He stood with Fitch and Alves for a majority of their fights too. It just makes no sense to stand with a completely one-dimensional Dan Hardy when you don't have to.

Whatever though. I can't believe I misspelled terrified.