UFC 127

[Mr. IWS]

Really?

I have never really liked Bisping, but I thought he was actually pretty respectful tonight.

Agree. Rivera's mouth wrote checks, his ass couldn't cash. I would have fuckin pulled my dick out and pissed on him after I knocked him out.

[Mr. IWS]

I really hope we dont see Penn-Fitch again anytime soon.

I think it will happen after GSP beats Shileds and moves up to 85. Will be for the strap this time.

[Mr. IWS]

Yeah, I really got that vibe from the speech he gave there at the end. It just sounded like, "Well if I lost this fight I was going to retire, but since the gods were... 'good'... to me, I guess I'll have to keep going." I'm not saying he wanted to lose, but it looked like the draw was emotionally crushing for him, like he just wanted a sign one way or the other so he would know what to do with his life and the draw was the exact opposite of that.

Well said. I agree

[poopoo333]

The welterweight division is such a mess lol. The only way it will be clear is if Jake Shields beats GSP. I hope GSP wins though, I would like to keep my bet on GSP @+190.

[SPX]

Dana speaks:

UFC president Dana White admitted he had no idea how things will shake out, but did believe Penn did enough to get the win over Fitch.
"I didn't think it was a draw," White told ESPN.com. "I looked at the scorecards and the two judges who had it a draw scored the first two rounds for Penn and the third round a 10-8 [for Fitch].
"Personally, I scored the first two rounds for Penn and had him winning the fight. There's no doubt B.J. got pounded in the third round, but that wasn't a 10-8 round."

[zY|]

I don't see why people are already rearranging the division. GSP still has 2 months before the Shields fight, and he has agreed to nothing about moving up to fight Silva. It's not a foregone conclusion at all, just because Dana said. This is the 3rd time he's said they're going to fight if X beats X and he changed his mind both times. And even if they do fight, who's to say it's not at a catchweight with both retaining their titles?

[zY|]

Hard to sell me on that not being a 10-8 round, Dana. BJ was taken down immediately, held down for the duration, offered zero offense, outstruck 149-2 while being punched in the face constantly and generally just having his fucking ass kicked.

[Luke]

I rewatched the fgiht ,BJ didnt win rd 2.He spent the first 2:30 of the round getting taken down and planted against the cage and spent the last 1:00 getting GnP on the floor .

The only thing BJ did in rd 2 was get a TD that he did nothing with and got reversed quickly, that doesnt win you a round imo


Of course Dana is going to say he thought BJ won ,BJ is the more marketable fighter. Even BJ doesnt think BJ won ........that should tell ya something

[Ludo]

Hard to sell me on that not being a 10-8 round, Dana. BJ was taken down immediately, held down for the duration, offered zero offense, outstruck 149-2 while being punched in the face constantly and generally just having his fucking ass kicked.

Yes but if that was a 10-8, what do we call the first round of Maynard/Edgar II? Because if what Fitch did was 10-8 last night then we're looking at possibly a 10-6 in what Maynard did to Edgar there.

[zY|]

Yes but if that was a 10-8, what do we call the first round of Maynard/Edgar II? Because if what Fitch did was 10-8 last night then we're looking at possibly a 10-6 in what Maynard did to Edgar there.

10-7, obviously.

3. A round is to be scored as a 10-8 Round when a contestant overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.

4. A round is to be scored as a 10-7 Round when a contestant totally dominates by striking or grappling in a round.

[zY|]

I rewatched the fgiht ,BJ didnt win rd 2.He spent the first 2:30 of the round getting taken down and planted against the cage and spent the last 1:00 getting GnP on the floor .

The only thing BJ did in rd 2 was get a TD that he did nothing with and got reversed quickly, that doesnt win you a round imo


Of course Dana is going to say he thought BJ won ,BJ is the more marketable fighter. Even BJ doesnt think BJ won ........that should tell ya something

I haven't rewatched it yet, but I get the feeling I'll agree with you. 10-10 at least. He did have Fitch's back for a bit in round 2 though, I remember.

[Luke]

3. A round is to be scored as a 10-8 Round when a contestant overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.

4. A round is to be scored as a 10-7 Round when a contestant totally dominates by striking or grappling in a round.

they really need to work on scoring guidelines because those are just too vague, someone with no idea what they are doing (any MMA judge) could go by those rules score round three 10-7. I mean you dont get much more dominate than 149-2 in striking and 3-0 in TD's in a rd

[zY|]

they really need to work on scoring guidelines because those are just too vague, someone with no idea what they are doing (any MMA judge) could go by those rules score round three 10-7. I mean you dont get much more dominate than 149-2 in striking and 3-0 in TD's in a rd

I think the sport is too dynamic to have too much specificity. Also if the problem is the judges (it is) then that's going to be the problem regardless of how specific the rules are. They aren't able to follow them as is, how are they going to remember more details?

Although yes, there could be a touch more clarity to those definitions.

[SPX]

The California MMA Athletic Organization debuted a half-point scoring system for the amateur bouts at the Diaz vs Cyborg event. This is basically a trial run to get it considered for pro bouts.

If it comes to be, it will fix a lot of these problems.

[zY|]

The half point system is totally gay. Explain how it can fix anything when the problem is the judges.