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  • Luke
    10 year vet
    • Oct 2006
    • 30060

    Originally posted by Svino
    Who do you think takes a fight between Shogun and Phil Davis?

    right now I'd take Shogun.......if it was the shogun that fought Machida the second time
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    • zY|
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 8385

      Oh yeah, anybody remember this?



      Jon Jones turned down a fight with Nog less than a year ago.
      Triple-six killers in this motherfucker runnin shit

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      • MMA_scientist
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 9857

        Originally posted by Svino
        For now I agree, but how sad is it that a relative newcomer "only" beat Rogerio Nogueira fairly easily and the media reaction is a giant "meh"? Damn, Jones sure raised the bar on expectations.

        Who do you think takes a fight between Shogun and Phil Davis?
        I am not saying it wasn't impressive to win the fight. A lot of people were saying Davis might be the guy to defeat Jones... I just don't think that is going to happen. Jones has better wrestling in MMA and much better striking. I would take Davis to beat Shogun at this point, but I wouldn't bet either man as a favorite... but it hard to tell, because Shogun gassed out after 2 or 3 minutes with Jones. It could have been the lay off, he seems to look a lot better in the 2nd fight after a layoff.
        2012: +19.33
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        • zY|
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 8385

          I think Shogun 'gassed' due to the knee to the liver, head kick, straight left combo he ate while standing up, all of which landed completely flush and wouldve felled most mortals. Not to mention the flying knee at the beginning of the fight that also landed flush. Getting your ass kicked is tiring. Notice he came out a bit faster and fresher in the 2nd round.
          Triple-six killers in this motherfucker runnin shit

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          • Luke
            10 year vet
            • Oct 2006
            • 30060

            Now that I've thought about it Rumble had one of the best performances I've ever seen for someone that hadnt fought in 5 years,started training camp at 378, and weighed 255 the day after weighing in at 171


            Apparently Johnson wants John Howard next
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            • Mr. IWS
              215 Hustler
              • Sep 2006
              • 98707

              Originally posted by Luke
              Now that I've thought about it Rumble had one of the best performances I've ever seen for someone that hadnt fought in 5 years,started training camp at 378, and weighed 255 the day after weighing in at 171


              Apparently Johnson wants John Howard next

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              • MMA_scientist
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 9857

                ^^ they have been feuding and talking shit to each other for forever. It is a "grudge match"...
                2012: +19.33
                2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                • MMA_scientist
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 9857

                  Originally posted by IWS Zak
                  MMA Professor

                  UFC Fight Night Picks
                  Phil Davis (-280) over Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
                  John Hathaway (-300) over Kris McCray


                  wins again. I am going to start checking this guy out.
                  2012: +19.33
                  2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                  • edman5555
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 6628

                    Originally posted by MMA_scientist


                    wins again. I am going to start checking this guy out.
                    He is pretty good. He has a page with a bunch of videos. I watched two of them. He gets it right a pretty good amount of time and he sounds like he knows a lot about MMA. The Hathaway fight was pretty close though, I thought Mccray might give him trouble. Hathaway really isn't an uber wrestler stopper, if Mccray hadn't gassed he could of easily won that fight.
                    1 unit = 300 $

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                    • MMA_scientist
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 9857

                      ^ yeah we was definitely on the "wrong" side of the line in that fight... but that is going to happen. For every one of those, you will lose one where you are on the "right" side of the line.

                      I am not going to copy the guy's plays or anything, but if he is going to the effort to put it out there for free, and it is at least passable quality, I think he deserves some credit when he wins. I have several sources I like to "check" before making a play. I often ignore them, but I still like to hear what people have to say. That is why I come here, to get other perspectives. Well, that and for the witty repartee.
                      2012: +19.33
                      2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                      • High5
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 267

                        Originally posted by MMA_scientist


                        wins again. I am going to start checking this guy out.
                        Where did you find him picking those two? I suscribe to him on youtube and I follow him on twitter, Maybe I missed them? He use to do more prediction videos than he does nowdays.
                        Like everybody, he's not always right.....He had Shogun over Bones but he does break down the fights and I enjoy listening to breakdowns vs. reading them when I can. EBWReturns is good too.....

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                        • edman5555
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 6628

                          Yeah he did say that Shogun is his fav fighter of all time though
                          1 unit = 300 $

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                          • SPX
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 23875

                            Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                            I have several sources I like to "check" before making a play.
                            Like who?

                            Now that Performify and Hammersmith have shut their operations down, I don't know of anyone else.
                            I heart cock

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                            • MMA_scientist
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 9857

                              ^^ usually just the SD and BE breakdowns anymore, sometimes if I am on the fence, I will just google "Davis Nogeira breakdown" or something. These independent guys come and go. Everyone jumps off the bandwagon as soon as there is a dip. Losing streaks can and do last for months at a time, but most people (self included) don't have the faith to stick to the plan during all of that, much less stick by someone else while they lose for months on end. I don't really look for bet breakdowns, just fight breakdowns. I make my own bet decisions and that is not really going to be influenced by anyone else... but I am open to how other see a fight going down.
                              2012: +19.33
                              2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                              • High5
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 267

                                He also had Belfort over A Silva, Fedor over Bigfoot....
                                Nobody is always right, MMA is so volatile & hard to predict!

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