Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Cyborg - Jan 29th

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  • Mr. IWS
    215 Hustler
    • Sep 2006
    • 99903

    #46
    Originally posted by MMA_scientist
    Does Cyborg gas? I honestly know nothing of his work. It is a 5 rounder right? Very few guys can beat Diaz in a 5 rounder IMO. So he is going to try to blitz him and KO him? Diaz had a good chin, but i think it is more than he is a good boxer and he doesn't get hit with big unseen shots that often. He does take a lot of shots though.
    Cyborg just never paces himself. He throws nothing but bombs (see his fight with Manhoef, which was a classic). He will probably come out guns blazing in round one, by the end of the round, be dead tired. Get subbed or Ko'd in the second.
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    • poopoo333
      MMA *********
      • Jan 2010
      • 18302

      #47

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      • trotterz
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 450

        #48
        Wow, the Gracie/Prangley line is a lot closer than I was expecting

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        • MMA_scientist
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 9857

          #49
          Roger probably has value. It is a tough matchup, but I thought Roger would be at least -200.

          Anyone know anything abouty Lawson/Keslar?
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          • MMA_scientist
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 9857

            #50
            Isaiah Hill is 1-7 in his last 8 fights. Just sayin. I looked at Stack, and he looks pretty good solid all around guy. He trains with Gil Melendez. So it looks like a case of a serious up and comer being fed some guy who likes to get his head smashed.

            Probably going to do Stack/Diaz I am still looking at Lawson and Coy
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            • edman5555
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 6628

              #51
              Lawson is a BMX rider. He used to wrestle as well. He may have some college wrestling but I'm not sure. He has also had a lot of injuries the past couple of years. That is why he has been inactive.
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              • edman5555
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 6628

                #52
                Thinking about some bets here. James Terry to start. Can you find anything on Lucas Gamazza?
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                • edman5555
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 6628

                  #53
                  Gamazza trains at Cesar Gracie. He started doing BJJ. Hasn't fought since the end of 2009. I can't figure out how good he is though.
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                  • edman5555
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 6628

                    #54
                    He has gone the distance in all his fights. Hasn't submitted anyone..James hung in there standing with Tarec. James should be able to handle this kid. Sprawl and brawl if he wants. I will probably throw something on him. Maybe some parlays for this.
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                    • Ludo
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 4931

                      #55
                      1.45u to win 1u on Gracie
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                      Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
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                      • edman5555
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 6628

                        #56
                        Wow Ballsy bet. Prangley isn't bad....
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                        • Luke
                          10 year vet
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 30060

                          #57
                          Originally posted by edman5555
                          Wow Ballsy bet. Prangley isn't bad....


                          He isnt good either
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                          • MMA_scientist
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 9857

                            #58
                            I am probably going to be on Roger as well. I think that Roger may outstrike him with his reach. If Prangley tries to GNP him, he'll die. 100% Roger beats him on the ground from any position. 40% chance Roger outpoints him standing. I also think Roger can take him down. Prangley is a good wrestler, but he is a lot smaller than Roger.
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                            • edman5555
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 6628

                              #59
                              Yeah I hear what you guys are saying but don't forget Roger has only had 3 fights for a total of about 3 rounds. Prangley has been around a while and may have the ability to keep it standing. He could conceivably outstrike Roger too..
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                              • Ludo
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 4931

                                #60
                                Originally posted by edman5555
                                Wow Ballsy bet. Prangley isn't bad....
                                Originally posted by edman5555
                                Yeah I hear what you guys are saying but don't forget Roger has only had 3 fights for a total of about 3 rounds. Prangley has been around a while and may have the ability to keep it standing. He could conceivably outstrike Roger too..
                                He's not bad, granted. However he's not great either. He's 38 years old, never even come close to cracking top 25 in the division, and he seems tailor made for Gracie here. He's not nearly long enough to present major problems unless he gets way inside on Gracie. He's not explosively athletic. His striking isn't power strike centered, and he is fairly flat footed standing. If this fight hits the ground at all Prangley loses. Roger has reach, not necessarily power but his strikes come in volume sort of like Nick Diaz' type of striking and has a strong clinch game as well. I can see Roger more or less deciding where this fight goes because I don't think Prangley would dare shoot. He almost got caught in an armbar by Jardine as well. I can see Roger getting the better of the standup as well, the pace Roger sets there could be a problem and it might just overwhelm Prangley(who struggled with Jardines combinations) if Roger starts landing cleanly.
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                                Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
                                Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
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