Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Cyborg - Jan 29th

[MMA_scientist]

^ yeah he whupped Mayhem's ass in the first fight. Mayhem willingly grappled with him and got worked. In the second fight, Mayhem tried to force a standup fight and was getting the better of Jacare until the cut. The next time we saw Jacare after that, all of the sudden, he could strike. I think it pissed him off because Mayhem was taunting him and shit. Jacare would outstrike Mayhem now IMO

[edman5555]

I have my parlay bet on diaz/souza. I don't think I will add anything else. Robbie's hands are just to ridiculously powerful.

[edman5555]

Yeah Jacare seems like a really hardworking guy. Don't ask me why, I just get that vibe from him. I would bet his hands are probably about even with Robbie skill wise, just Robbie can knock out anyone if he connects.

[MMA_scientist]

Heh ok. "Jacare is going to win" "I am not betting it" . Something does not add up here. I get it though, Lawler has heavy hands and good takedown defense.

Well I have what I think is going to happen, and I have my rules. One of those rules is not bet heavy favorites where there is a clear and viable path to victory for the underdog. I think there is a very good chance Lawler can stuff him for at least a little while, or get back to his feet. So I can't bet it. If his line was lower, I would bet it. I would bet on Lawler, but I am not betraying jiu jitsu again this month.

[edman5555]

I am thinking about placing a larger bet on Nick but I worry about betting him sometimes. He seems like he fights to entertain . I haven't seen him fight a lot but he looks like he takes a lot of damage. Santos doesn't seem to be that good though. Nick should be able to wear him out in a 5 rounder. Santos is a Black belt in bjj also, Nick seems to be a good black belt though. Correct?

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah Jacare seems like a really hardworking guy. Don't ask me why, I just get that vibe from him. I would bet his hands are probably about even with Robbie skill wise, just Robbie can knock out anyone if he connects.

I have a jj DVD called "Arte Suave". Jacare is in it and they ask him what his secret is and he says "my secret is I train 3x a day" or something like that. He is also a world class athlete. There is a vid of him somewhere climbing a 20 foot rope with 1 hand. Just hopping up up the rope with plyo pullups with 1 arm and nothing else. I would not have even thought that was possible. He is a freak athlete. And he has massive heart and balls. Roger broke his arm in the 2004 Mundials and Jacare still won the match on points. He is a bad mother fucker, don't let his silly little croc dance fool you. He is insane.

[MMA_scientist]

I am thinking about placing a larger bet on Nick but I worry about betting him sometimes. He seems like he fights to entertain . I haven't seen him fight a lot but he looks like he takes a lot of damage. Santos doesn't seem to be that good though. Nick should be able to wear him out in a 5 rounder. Santos is a Black belt in bjj also, Nick seems to be a good black belt though. Correct?

I personally think Nick has a much better ground game. I really think the key to that fight is the 5 rounds. No one has ever stopped Nick (except KJ on cuts). Cyborg gasses and Nick never tires. Cyborg basically has to knock him out early to win. Cyborg is a bb in bjj like Wandy is. I am sure they are both legit bb's (hell, Wandy has never beed subbed in like 100 fights), but Diaz is better IMO.

[edman5555]

I heard from someone on here that Santos is a gasser but is he really? If he is he might really be fucked here because this is only his second fight at 170.

[edman5555]

I just read that Santos was outstriking Melvin Manheof in their fight up until the point he got knocked out. He might actually be a decent striker.

[MMA_scientist]

Santos is a go for broke type, old school Wanderlei Silva type. He just comes out and starts chucking punches until someone falls over. But in his last couple fights, he has been a little more tactical. He has power, and he could put Nick to sleep. But with Nick talking about becoming a pro boxer and what not, I have to assume he can deal with the brawling for a few mintues.

[MMA_scientist]

Thinking about taking the arb on Roger now. He is down to -180 and I can get Prangley @ +150. I only have 1.35 u on Roger @ -135 though, so not really worth it.

[edman5555]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au_9NoNUErg

Theres manhoef/cyborg.

I get exactly what your saying and I think the same thing more or less. I also don't buy the whole so and so can't get knocked out. People seem to have that attitude about nick. Everyone can get put to sleep. I was probably dumb to parlay nick and jacare together. They are both fighting guys with huge power.

[MMA_scientist]

^^ if you look at that fight, by the 4 minute mark, Cyborg's hands are at his waist, Nick would be boxing his face while he stood around like that.

I don't believe in the iron chin theory either. I think it is more that some guys don't blink and see the punches coming. They stay in the pocket and there are no surprise punches. If you catch a guy right, he will go to sleep, no one is immune.

[edman5555]

Herschel might be a good bet. His opponent looks like another can. I don't think strikeforce wants him losing. He is worth a lot of money to them. He is very very marketable. Everytime he fights it is a story on ESPN.

[edman5555]

I might throw a lot on him tomorrow. I can't find any tape on his opponent though. That is the only thing that is stopping me.