UFC on Versus 4

[flyinggogoplata]

[Thewisemann]

I think thier hands are close to even, Barrys edge is the brutal leg kicks. Kongo can win by taking Barry down or against the cage, I'm not worried about illegal knees as much because Barry is so short, they should land at his midsection easier than 6'6 Browne. I have Kongo at -155, but I am considering hedging.

[edman5555]

I am hoping Kongos line goes down. I will check out reduced juice at bet time. I don't think Barry will gas but if Beltran can put him up against the cage Kongo can. That fight was really close too. He dominated round 3 but I thought Beltran was going to get it tbh. I had money on Barry. Barry has only had 8 mma matches btw. I think Kongo should be able to take this most of the time but Barry has quick powerful hands. Hopefully Kongos chin (which is really good) can handle it.

[poopoo333]

I just think Kongo has more ways to win, and the way I see him winning > the way Barry has to win. As a fan I would love to see Barry win..but I just don't see it happening

[edman5555]

Cheick weighed in at 228 for his last fight. Pat Barry 240. Mitrione 260.

[edman5555]

I think thier hands are close to even, Barrys edge is the brutal leg kicks. Kongo can win by taking Barry down or against the cage, I'm not worried about illegal knees as much because Barry is so short, they should land at his midsection easier than 6'6 Browne. I have Kongo at -155, but I am considering hedging.

I would think Barry won't be able to do as much with the leg kicks as he has in the past. Cheick is a fomer kickboxer so he should know how to check them. In addition to that, they will probably be spending a lot of time up against the cage. I would think those kicks might present an opportunity for cheick to clinch and push to the cage but who knows. Cerrone landed 9 millions kicks against that BJJ wiz.

[poopoo333]

Ok am I missing something on the Stevenson/Vasquez fight? Just like X, I thought this line would be close to even

[SPX]

I think if Stevenson brings his A game he wins. But after losing money on him twice in a row against Danzig and Castillo, I have lost faith.

I guess the oddsmakers still have faith.

[flyinggogoplata]

Oddsmakers have no faith. Its because Joe is a big name from tuf and the betting public love him. Oddsmakers are greedy nothing more.

[Ludo]

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[poopoo333]

What is this A game you keep speaking of? The guy is 3-6 in his last 9. Did he bring his B, C, D, or F game in those 6 fights? Not trying to be a dick, but I think Stevenson is just either not that good anymore, or fighters just keep getting better. Joe Daddy might have a big size advantage though, which might play a factor here.

[poopoo333]

[SPX]

What is this A game you keep speaking of? The guy is 3-6 in his last 9. Did he bring his B, C, D, or F game in those 6 fights? Not trying to be a dick, but I think Stevenson is just either not that good anymore, or fighters just keep getting better. Joe Daddy might have a big size advantage though, which might play a factor here.

The Stevenson that killed Fisher, I think, should be able to beat Vazquez, who hasn't proven to be a world-beater himself.

[poopoo333]

Spencer Fisher and Javier Vasquez are completely different fighters.

[flyinggogoplata]

Spencer Fisher and Javier Vasquez are completely different fighters.

but Lentz and Manny are alike in a lot of ways.