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  • Svino
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 3873

    #271
    Is Johnson actually that much better than Faaloloto? I don't know those guys well.

    I do like Lentz at +175. He's not going to forget to wrestle like Efrain. I think the best plan against Oliveira is to push him up against the fence and beat him up, and Lentz just might try to do that.

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    • sbjj
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 1418

      #272
      I want agree. Some much dance to have no like when a toad gone jump universally can fathom time start watching cars write venomous shut crotch.

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      • MMA_scientist
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 9857

        #273
        Originally posted by Svino
        Is Johnson actually that much better than Faaloloto? I don't know those guys well.

        I do like Lentz at +175. He's not going to forget to wrestle like Efrain. I think the best plan against Oliveira is to push him up against the fence and beat him up, and Lentz just might try to do that.
        I thin Lentz has a great chance, my only concern is that he avoid the submission and scrambles. Oliveira is probably going to go for whatever limb or appendage is free and he will probably be able to create space to get up if he wants (though he seems content to fight off his back). I am definitely going to drop a bet there though at that line. It is close a 50/50 for me.
        2012: +19.33
        2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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        • poopoo333
          MMA *********
          • Jan 2010
          • 18302

          #274
          Originally posted by Svino
          Is Johnson actually that much better than Faaloloto? I don't know those guys well.

          I do like Lentz at +175. He's not going to forget to wrestle like Efrain. I think the best plan against Oliveira is to push him up against the fence and beat him up, and Lentz just might try to do that.
          Johnson=kind of heavy handed wrestler that gasses. Faaloloto only has that one fight against Njokuani that I saw and it wasn't the type of match up that would show how he would do against a wrestler.

          Oliveira is also content on his back. So if he doesn't catch Lentz with anything off his back, he will probably drop the rounds Torres/Mighty Mouse style. Oliveira also stated before he fought Miller that he doesn't train with any wrestlers/much wrestling. Brazilians are stupid.

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          • edman5555
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 6628

            #275
            well he can definetly push him up against the fence and beat him up if he wants to. I just wonder if he is good enough to avoid getting submitted.
            1 unit = 300 $

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            • poopoo333
              MMA *********
              • Jan 2010
              • 18302

              #276
              Enjoying rest week. Thinking about all the good food I'll be eating soon. Just have to dehydrate one day and take it out on Manny Sunday! -Tyson Griffin Seems like he won't be having that rough of a cut

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              • MMA_scientist
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 9857

                #277
                Originally posted by poopoo333
                Johnson=kind of heavy handed wrestler that gasses. Faaloloto only has that one fight against Njokuani that I saw and it wasn't the type of match up that would show how he would do against a wrestler.

                Oliveira is also content on his back. So if he doesn't catch Lentz with anything off his back, he will probably drop the rounds Torres/Mighty Mouse style. Oliveira also stated before he fought Miller that he doesn't train with any wrestlers/much wrestling. Brazilians are stupid.
                I don't think Johnson's hands are very good at all. It is basically a wrestler/striker matchup. Falo is a hawaiian guy trains with Leben... doesn't really have a dominant skill, but looks like he can bang. Johnson should win, but I just don't think he is that good, so I am not going to pay to bet him.
                2012: +19.33
                2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                • flyinggogoplata
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 1048

                  #278
                  wow tuf fighters over valued again.

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                  • MMA_scientist
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 9857

                    #279
                    Originally posted by flyinggogoplata
                    wow tuf fighters over valued again.
                    just breadcrumbs my man. Breadcrumbs falling on you.
                    2012: +19.33
                    2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                    • SPX
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 23875

                      #280
                      Originally posted by poopoo333
                      I don't think Manny is like Lentz at all.
                      Very similar fighters. They're physically strong, grappling-based fighters with functional striking who like to hold guys against the cage and work their game.
                      I heart cock

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                      • flyinggogoplata
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 1048

                        #281
                        Lentz doesn't have KO power like Manny.

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                        • MMA_scientist
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 9857

                          #282
                          Originally posted by flyinggogoplata
                          Lentz doesn't have KO power like Manny.
                          I am not responding to anything you say until you decode your Mitrione post.
                          2012: +19.33
                          2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                          • SPX
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 23875

                            #283
                            Originally posted by flyinggogoplata
                            Lentz doesn't have KO power like Manny.
                            I didn't say they are carbon copies, I just said that are similar.

                            Manny Gamburyan and Nik Lentz = similar.
                            Manny Gamburyan and Anthony Pettis = not similar.
                            I heart cock

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                            • flyinggogoplata
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 1048

                              #284
                              Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                              I am not responding to anything you say until you decode your Mitrione post.
                              Mitrione training with Eddie Bravo.

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                              • MMA_scientist
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 9857

                                #285
                                Permanently ignored.
                                2012: +19.33
                                2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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