UFC 134 Rio de Janeiro Aug 27th

[edman5555]

Serious question and don't take offense cause I don't mean anything by it but how can you say someone has no chance if you've never seen them fight?

I just based it on the fact that he had a grappling background and 5 of his 7 wins came by submission. Maybe he dropped them with punches first, I don't know. To sum it up, he appeared to be an average grappler fighting an extraordinary grappler. I should probably watch some video on this before I place a bet though. Good thing I come to IWS.

[edman5555]

lukes opponents records are as follows starting with his first fight: (W) 7-5, (L) 3-1, (W) 5-11, (W) 6-2, (W) 3-3, (W) 11-5, (W) 19- 6 jesse taylor from tuf, (W) 15-2 and a 170 pounder. His record is respectable and so is his 1st round stoppage of Taylor but he is still very very green. I think he will have a hard time with Jacare. I hope Jacares line improves.

[SPX]

Jacare's line is likely to only get worse. But I seriously doubt that Rockhold beats him. Jacare should simply be a better fighter who is just one step ahead.

[Luke]

Yeah, I was like, This nigga's making sure to lay out a full disclaimer before saying anything that could even remotely be perceived as offensive.

I dont want people telling me to kill myself anymore

[Luke]

I just based it on the fact that he had a grappling background and 5 of his 7 wins came by submission. Maybe he dropped them with punches first, I don't know. To sum it up, he appeared to be an average grappler fighting an extraordinary grappler. I should probably watch some video on this before I place a bet though. Good thing I come to IWS.

I don't remember a lot about Rockhold off the top of my head so I really cant say anything without watching some videos.

Poopoo ..........get them videos up

[SPX]

I dont want people telling me to kill myself anymore

Automatic ban on anyone who does that again.

[MMA_scientist]

Automatic ban on anyone who does that again.

Wait, does this rule only apply to luke? Direct me to the post where this went down because I missed were Luke was in a e-fight recently.

[SPX]

Wait, does this rule only apply to luke? Direct me to the post where this went down because I missed were Luke was in a e-fight recently.

It was a little while back. It's over now. People apologized. All is well.

[poopoo333]

Anybody really like Barboza over Pearson? I kind of do. Barboza was getting out worked in round 2 and 3 against Njokuani, but Njokuani has more length and a diverse striking game compared to Pearson imo. I think Barboza's striking will probably be on another level than Pearson's, and I think he will be able to avoid any danger in the grappling department. Barboza apparently had a broken hand or something of that sort a few weeks before the Njokuani fight so he couldn't fight at 100%. Also, Barboza is training with some really good guys to work with him with his grappling.

"I'm training striking with coach Ouali and my partners Luis Cane and Marlon Moraes," he said. "I've been training jiu-jitsu and grappling with big names like Eduardo Guedes, Rafael Chaves, Pablo Popovitch, Roberto Cyborg {Abreu) and Vagner "Ceara" Rocha, and also I'm training wrestling at Imperial Gym. I'm doing my strength and conditioning with Joe Mullings. So I'm working all of MMA points for that fight because I want to be able to work standing up and on the ground in this fight."

[SPX]

I think Barboza will win.

This is one of those weird fights where the line is hard to determine. I don't even know who will be the underdog.

[Vandelay]

Barboza injured his knee prior to the njoukuani fight.

[poopoo333]

Barboza will be the favorite. Not sure how much of a favorite though. Probably open at -200ish or worse.


Also, anybody have thoughts on Luiz Cane/Stanislav Nedkov? I really think Cane is going to beat him, probably pretty easily. I would take him up to -300

[poopoo333]

“We were almost gonna pull Edson from that fight, because he had really injured his hand about three and a half weeks ago during a training incident,” Joe Mullings, Barboza’s manager and owner of Jupiter, Fla., gym The Armory, told Sherdog.com on Sunday. “He hit an overhand right and caught the top of somebody’s head, and it really bruised the top of the hand bad.”

However, Mullings asserted that the damaged paw was a secondary concern to a serious leg injury Barboza sustained while preparing for his sophomore Octagon outing.

“About six weeks ago, he blew out his right leg in a training situation,” said Mullings. “We were training and he kicked one of his training partners who had shin pads on. The guy grabbed his leg, ‘Junior’ went to turn out of it and his knee stayed in place, and the shin rotated. He dropped to the ground like a ton of bricks and he’s been in rehab literally six days a week since then. He had not thrown a kick in six weeks.”

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[poopoo333]

Ok so I am trying to get a head start on all the UFC cards for now on...here is what I have so far

I already have 4u on Forrest Griffin. Schaub/Big Nog has too many ?s, but Schaub will probably unfortunately blast Nog. I might bet Okami if he hits +400.

For fights without lines, I plan on taking Barboza up to -225, Cane up to -300, and Dan Miller @+125 or better.

Does anybody have any thoughts on any of the other fights that I didn't mention? Or thoughts on the fights I did mention?

[SPX]

I'm with you on most of that, but I really doubt that Miller wins. I'd probably take Paul Harris up to -200.