UFC on Versus 5

[MMA_scientist]

^ No. I think Oliveira is a better grappler by a lot and Cerrone tends to get tagged a lot standing as well. I think Oliveira has the edge in takedowns and submissions, standing it is close.

[sbjj]

I'm really surprised how many people seem to like Cerrone.

[poopoo333]

I doubt it.

btw, I meant that I doubt you are alone in thinking that.

[sbjj]

^ No. I think Oliveira is a better grappler by a lot and Cerrone tends to get tagged a lot standing as well. I think Oliveira has the edge in takedowns and submissions, standing it is close.

This is the thing standing. Cerrone fights at a very methodical pace. i think Oliveira will give him fits with his workrate alone standing. Also cerrone only seems to have a distinct edge standing when he is allowed to push his opponent back. i doubt he does this with Oliveira. In fact, I think oliveira will be pushing cerrone back, and that is when cerrone gets clipped...while moving back.

[poopoo333]

Well I really doubt Hardy can knock out Lytle. I highly doubt he can submit him. So I guess a bet by decision on him is worth it because it will probably be at good odds. I don't know if he can outstrike him though. That might be kinda hard. I think Lytles hands are pretty good.

Chris Lytle was dropped against Ebersole and Burns, I guess I could see Hardy getting the finish. Hardy is more of a in and out type of striker who throws short punches, retreats and resets. Lytle just throws windmill punches non stop hoping for a FOTN check. It's hard to see where Hardy is really at in a fight like this, because in his last 3 fights he has just gotten straight up ass fucked. Hardy did look good against Swick though and beat Marcus Davis who beat Chris Lytle (mma math FTW).


oh and btw, I am pretty sure this fight is a 5 rounder.

[edman5555]

Am I alone in thinking that Oliveira holds a fairly large edge over Cerrone?

i was kinda feeling that in the grappling department. I'm not sure about the striking though. Cerrone was a kickboxer for a long time but I remember Oliv being really fluid and impressive with his strikes. I will prob take oliv at good odds.

[edman5555]

^ No. I think Oliveira is a better grappler by a lot and Cerrone tends to get tagged a lot standing as well. I think Oliveira has the edge in takedowns and submissions, standing it is close.

cerrone doesn't have much in the way of knockout power so i dont see a lot stopping oliv from going in and tieing him up to go for takedown but i could be wrong.

[edman5555]

Chris Lytle was dropped against Ebersole and Burns, I guess I could see Hardy getting the finish. Hardy is more of a in and out type of striker who throws short punches, retreats and resets. Lytle just throws windmill punches non stop hoping for a FOTN check. It's hard to see where Hardy is really at in a fight like this, because in his last 3 fights he has just gotten straight up ass fucked. Hardy did look good against Swick though and beat Marcus Davis who beat Chris Lytle (mma math FTW).


oh and btw, I am pretty sure this fight is a 5 rounder.

well hardy can go 5 rounds. I wonder if Lytle can. He was talking about retiring a while ago, not that it affects his cardio.

[Luke]

Herman vs. Noke official for UFC on Versus 5, event now set with 12 bouts http://bit.ly/nmAk1y

MAIN CARD (Versus)

• Dan Hardy vs. Chris Lytle
• Ben Henderson vs. Jim Miller
• Duane Ludwig vs. Amir Sadollah
• C.B. Dollaway vs. Jared Hamman

PRELIMINARY CARD

• Joseph Benavidez vs. Eddie Wineland
• Ed Herman vs. Kyle Noke
• Ronny Markes vs. Karlos Vemola
• Alex Caceres vs. Leonard Garcia
• Cole Miller vs. T.J. O'Brien
• Danny Castillo vs. Jacob Volkmann
• Donald Cerrone vs. Charles Oliveira
• Edwin Figueroa vs. Jason Reinhardt

[Thewisemann]

Bump Cerrone/Oliveira and Benevidez/Wineland to the main card, and lose Sadollah/Ludwig and Dollaway/Hamman, seriously.

[mike]

what do you guys think the line would be on Ludwig-Sadollah ? I think Ludwig can beat Amir. Also like Figueroa, and bruce leeroy if he gets good odds.

[edman5555]

i think bruce leeroy is going to get destroyed again. I agree with you about Ludwig but I wouldn't bet on it. Sodollah is a really game fighter.

[mike]

sadollah is techniquely sound but hes a fragile fighter, it seems. but yeah im going all in on figueroa. reinhart suck n hes 40 yr old.

[SPX]

sadollah is techniquely sound but hes a fragile fighter, it seems.

I'm not sure "fragile" is the right word. He's 5-2, having lost once via decision (rightly so) and once via TKO (in a fight that was probably stopped early).

I suspect he's going to take Ludwig down and sub him.

[mike]

i think amir jits is overrated. he fought 3 ground guys and lost one by dec, one by tko and sub one. i dont recall him taking anyone down? the others are strikers whos there for him to look good. but he seems to improve very fast so he might surprise me this time. btw, do u know what day bookmaker usually put up lines for undercard fights?