UFC on Versus 5

[edman5555]

no footage of Hettes. I think he trains at GJ though. He is a judo guy as well. Apparently they call him "Judo Jim" down there according to his wiki page. He had 4 amateur fights that he won by submission and 8 pro fights all won by submission. I haven't really looked up much about him. I just know Leroy sucks ass. I was really hoping he would fight Leonard Garcia because I know he would get killed. That would have been easy money. Hettes is still 12 for 12 with his sub wins and he is a judo guy so I would think he can take him down. It would be nice to see some visual proof though. I still will take him if he is a dog though. Who knows if he will be though.

[edman5555]

As far as Oliv/Cerrone goes, I put 1.5u on Cerrone by decision. +407 is too good to pass up. I think that Cerrone has the edge in the standup and he probably has good enough grappling to avoid getting subbed on the ground or controlled for too long. I could be wrong about that though.

[poopoo333]

Pooppp, ss for Dolloway, he is turning into quite the grappler IMO. He has pretty nasty front chokes, but that pretty much requires the other guy to do the shooting. I can't stand his face, but he has a solid submission game and I like his wrestle/submit style. I don't remember much about Hamman though. What does he do?

Hamman is really just a really tough fighter. He won't stop fighting and he puts on a good show. He is one of those "not great in any area fighters". As for the front chokes, I can see Hamman getting into that position to be choked in a scramble.

[poopoo333]

Some info on Hettes:

http://jimhettes.com/about/

I can't find any fight videos though.

[MMA_scientist]

Some info on Hettes:

http://jimhettes.com/about/

I can't find any fight videos though.

It is tough to make a bet without having seen the guy. BUt I do not think there are many lower level fighters in the UFC than Caceres. Based on that resume, I may very well make a bet in the blind on Hettes. He sounds like he has the style to beat Caceres.

[poopoo333]

I hate making bets on fighters without videos too. I really try not to do it, that's how I lose my bets. That used to be my biggest mistake when betting on non UFC/Strikeforce cards. Looking at records is just dumb to me now

[edman5555]

yeah i hear you. I would have to see some evidence of Hettes Judo or BJJ prowess. If he was some sort of champion that would make me feel good about him getting caceres to the ground. If he is a dog he will be worth betting on. I have a feeling the line will be pretty close though.

[edman5555]

2-time Keystone State Games Judo Gold Medalist

Scientist, is this any good?

[Ludo]

What does everything think on Benavidez/Wineland? I'm kind of leaning Benavidez but I don't know if he's going to be able to do to Wineland what Faber was able to do in the second and third rounds.

[MMA_scientist]

2-time Keystone State Games Judo Gold Medalist

Scientist, is this any good?

I think that just means he is the PA state champion. That really means nothing. He probably only had to win 1 or 2 matches to gain that title.

[MMA_scientist]

What does everything think on Benavidez/Wineland? I'm kind of leaning Benavidez but I don't know if he's going to be able to do to Wineland what Faber was able to do in the second and third rounds.

I think Benevidez is better than Faber personally. I think Benevidez will win if he comes to grapple. But even in a stand up fight, I think Benevidez can win.

[Ludo]

I'm kind of concerned about Benavidez having a hard time with Winelands reach standing, am I giving Wineland more credit than he deserves here? I keep thinking about Benavidez' last fight where he struggled with Lovelands reach for alot of the fight.

[poopoo333]

I'm kind of concerned about Benavidez having a hard time with Winelands reach standing, am I giving Wineland more credit than he deserves here? I keep thinking about Benavidez' last fight where he struggled with Lovelands reach for alot of the fight.

Yeah, that is what I keep thinking about too.

[edman5555]

they are both good. Benavidez is really small though. Personally I thought Faber came close to beating Cruz. It wasn't really a 50-45 IMO. Cruz kinda reminds me of Edgar. He wins but he doesn't really do a lot of damage. Faber messed Cruz's face up and dropped him with punches. Cruz landed more punches though. He plays to the scoring system really well.

[mike]

odds for the sadolah-lugwig are out