UFC on Versus 5

[MMA_scientist]

i thought about Herman beating Noke but I think Noke is the better all around grappler, and five of Hermans submission losses are by sub. They seem pretty even striking with a slight power advantage to Herman.

Yeah, but they guys that subbed Herman were studs, at least stretching back 5 or 6 years, it is just Maia and JMac. I won't be surprised to see Noke win or even get a submission, but I just want to see more of Noke. He lost to McCray on TUF, basically by repeated takedowns. Herman is a wrestler too, and has pretty decent submission defense.

[sbjj]

I was thinking of Figureoa-Benevidez parlay. I can see the concern with Figs wrestling. But I think MacDonalds MMA wrestling is 20x that of Reinhardt, and Fig. seemed to be able to pop back up rather quickly.

Reading Reinhardts 2 UFC fights play by plays is like reading a play by play for one of the first UFC's. I mean, is it poss. to get your ass kicked any worse.

[MMA_scientist]

Vemola is a wrestler, Scientist. He's actually a 6 time Czech Repub. National Wrestling champion. From what I understand that part of the world has some of the best wrestlers on the planet, but I don't know if thats true or not.

I see that now on Wiki... but he got taken down repeatedly by Madsen. And held there. And his standup is terrible. I just don't see him as a strong favorite.

[Ludo]

i thought about Herman beating Noke but I think Noke is the better all around grappler, and five of Hermans submission losses are by sub. They seem pretty even striking with a slight power advantage to Herman.

[Mr. IWS]

Im liking Hardy in that one.

fuckin bulz on that gif

[MMA_scientist]

^ I actually think Herman is going to beat Noke. So that is a no go for me. I am concerned about Hamman's athleticism.

[Ludo]

Vemola is a wrestler, Scientist. He's actually a 6 time Czech Repub. National Wrestling champion. From what I understand that part of the world has some of the best wrestlers on the planet, but I don't know if thats true or not.

[Ludo]

I'd go with Vemola and Dollaway for a decent parlay, or a Dollaway/Noke play. Both of which pay out better than even odds at the current lines.

[MMA_scientist]

Scientist, I have a job for you and I(and anyone else). lets come up with a 2 fighter parlay for this card. We have some shitty lines here. But they are not in the stratosphere.

We should be able to sniff out a 2 fight parlay that pays around -130 or so.

C. Miller/Benevidez is the best combo I can come up with. It is -122

Those are the only 2 favorites I have confidence in. Here is my rank of the other faves:

CB- Hamman is big and rugged, and CB tends to get tagged a lot. I do like C.B. more than the rest of the list.
Figeroa- a kickboxer facing a wrestler. Figeroa is probably too athletic and will be ok and find his spots, but still, the fear is there.
Amir- I fear he will stand and get KO'd Johny Hendricks style.
Vemola- fighting an unknown Nova Uniao BJJ specialist who just beat Filho. Vemola is strong, but not a wrestler. I am afraid he gets taken down and subbed.
Hettes- never seen him fight, but Cacares is a can. He did stuff a few takedowns on TUF though.

[sbjj]

Yea, but Macdonald is a young kid who is fast and very talented. Macdonald would beat Reinhardt in under a minute.

[edman5555]

Figueroa was taken down by that Macdonald kid over and over in their fight.

[edman5555]

lines suck. Apparently Bookmaker figured out that Bruce Leroy sucks.

[sbjj]

Scientist, I have a job for you and I(and anyone else). lets come up with a 2 fighter parlay for this card. We have some shitty lines here. But they are not in the stratosphere.

We should be able to sniff out a 2 fight parlay that pays around -130 or so.

[sbjj]

Cole Miller should win. Two long jiu jitsu guys, but one of them is better and also has better striking. I am kind of surprised at his line though.

yea, i think the line sucks.

As for Figueroa. he seems at the least to be a tough guy that can fight everywhere for at least 2 high paced rounds. I think he smokes Reinhardt. But that line sucks also.

I will not bet Castillo, because Volk. is one of those guys that seems to be much better than I believe him to be.

[MMA_scientist]

Cole Miller should win. Two long jiu jitsu guys, but one of them is better and also has better striking. I am kind of surprised at his line though.