BJ Penn Vs Nick Diaz - UFC 137

[MMA_scientist]

I don't like the round system at all. Marshall won the "fight." I wish they would just look at the whole thing and pick a winner.

[SPX]

Probably not a 10-8, but it's just gay that Vera still "won." Literally all the damage in that fight came from Marshall. It was 2 rounds of Vera stalling Marshall out and then 1 round of Vera getting dominated both in the striking and grappling.

[poopoo333]

You should. And then report back.

Vera is definitely going to hold the LHW and HW titles.


btw, I don't think the 3rd round was 10-8 like a lot of people.

[SPX]

Vera barely beat Eloit Marshall, now he can beat Jones?

That's what he said in an interview with Helwani the other day. He was listing out guys that could potentially beat Jones and he was like, "Machida, Rashad, and myself" or something along those lines.

Then again, he also said that he was going to "punch Marshall in the face until he stops moving," which as we know wasn't exactly the case.

[MMA_scientist]

Vera barely beat Eloit Marshall, now he can beat Jones?


Also, bol @ Mitrione. I mean, Mitrione is not a better fighter than some of the smaller guys that get paid nothing, but he is one of the UFC's better HW's... HWs generally make more money... 10k? that is terrible.

[SPX]

I didn't watch Vera/Marshall yet, I should do that

You should. And then report back.

[Mr. IWS]

BOL at Brandon Vera.

BTW, he said in an interview the other day that he thinks he can beat Jon Jones.

No, that was scientist.

[poopoo333]

I didn't watch Vera/Marshall yet, I should do that

[SPX]

BOL at Brandon Vera.

BTW, he said in an interview the other day that he thinks he can beat Jon Jones.

[Mr. IWS]

This is hilarious:

Brandon Vera: $120,000 (includes $60,000 win bonus)

LOL, thats worse then when Him and Lloyd Irvin got robbed.

[poopoo333]

This is hilarious:

Brandon Vera: $120,000 (includes $60,000 win bonus)

[SPX]

I'm always surprised at how little Nelson is making. I know he went through TUF and all but I'm still surprised he didn't have a better deal negotiated.

[poopoo333]

The full payouts included:

Nick Diaz: $200,000 (no win bonus)
def. B.J. Penn: $150,000

Cheick Kongo: $140,000 (includes $70,000 win bonus)
def. Matt Mitrione: $10,000

Roy Nelson: $40,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus)
def. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic: $75,000

Scott Jorgensen: $33,000 (includes $16,500 win bonus)
def. Jeff Curran: $8,000

Hatsu Hioki: $30,000 (includes $15,000 win bonus)
def. George Roop: $8,000

Donald Cerrone: $54,000 (includes $27,000 win bonus)
def. Dennis Siver: $27,000

Bart Palaszewski: $28,500 (includes $10,000 win bonus)*
def. Tyson Griffin: $25,500*

Brandon Vera: $120,000 (includes $60,000 win bonus)
def. Eliot Marshall: $15,000

Ramsey Nijem: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Danny Downes: $4,000

Francis Carmont: $12,000 (includes $6,000 win bonus)
def. Chris Camozzi: $8,000

Clifford Starks: $12,000 (includes $6,000 win bonus)
def. Dustin Jacoby: $6,000

* - Although not recognized on the official pay sheet, Griffin was fined $8,500 for missing weight for the fight, and contracts were reworked with those amounts. That money was issued to Palaszewski, an NSAC official confirmed with MMAjunkie.com. Otherwise, Griffin would have made $34,000 and Palaszewski would have made $20,000.

[SPX]

But in Rd 2, did he just get less skilled? Did his takedowns just suddenly become sloppy dives?

Well he didn't look gassed when he was going back to his stool. So why would he be gassed after a minute's rest?

Obviously he DID gas out, at least eventually. But he looked like a different fighter from the end of the first round to the beginning of the second.

[SPX]

That said, BJ can definitely do better, he has shown better cardio in the past... he is just lazy and doesn't work it as hard as he should.

It has something to do with weltwerweight. Maybe he doesn't train as hard so that he can maintain enough mass for the division. Or maybe the extra mass just using up too many resources. I don't know.