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  • Svino
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 3873

    #121
    Originally posted by SPX
    Really? I was thinking this was actually a pretty good style matchup for Crocop. Roy's a guy with relatively poor takedowns and unsophisticated hands. All he has is big power.

    I will be on Crocop as a dog.
    You could probably have said something similar about Schaub, though.

    I think Cro Cop still has pretty decent takedown defense and defense on the ground. His problem is that he just doesn't seem to be a good striker anymore. He has almost no offense left.

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    • flyinggogoplata
      Banned
      • Jun 2011
      • 1048

      #122
      I just hope crocop doesn't get knocked out. Guy has been through enough.

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      • Mr. IWS
        215 Hustler
        • Sep 2006
        • 99906

        #123
        Originally posted by LudoCain
        Roy has the durability to wade in and corner Cro Cop to land that big shot. We have seen Mirko chase people around as well which will give Roy opportunities.
        100% agree

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        • Luke
          10 year vet
          • Oct 2006
          • 30060

          #124
          If Cro Cop is a decent sized dog I'll probably be on him
          2015 MMA BETTING CHAMP


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          • edman5555
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 6628

            #125
            I am curious to see what kind of shape Roy is in. Dana seemed like he was more or less impying that Roy needs to either get in shape or get the hell out of the ufc. Can't blame him personally. Regardless, the striking edge has to go to Cro cop. This will probably be the first time in a while that cro cop won't be fighting someone who has him beat in the striking or size areas( Schaub size, Mir size, Pat striking, Junior size striking, Cheick definetly size). Outside from those matchups he does actually do pretty well. I am sure he will be an underdog too. I doubt he can knock out Roy also. Given the fact that he will be a dog, probably +200 or less, CC by decision will probably be +300 to +400 and worth a bet.
            1 unit = 300 $

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            • Svino
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 3873

              #126
              I support Fat Roy. Everyone who isn't champ hits their ceiling eventually - doesn't mean they should all try to totally change their game. And for better or worse, being a overweight "everyman" has become Nelson's brand. Dana may not like it, but that's just part of the territory that comes with running a sport that's half "sport" and half "sports entertainment".

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              • poopoo333
                MMA *********
                • Jan 2010
                • 18302

                #127
                Not sure how this fight will play out, but Nelson isn't the type of big athletic guy like Schaub that will just power through a double leg to get Cro Cop down. In fact I don't think Nelson even shoots doubles or singles, from what I have seen he gets his opponents down by clinching with him and getting the trip..I might be wrong though. I don't remember off the top of my head but did Mir even get Cro Cop down once? Mir was able to dominate in the clinch against Nelson (something I would not have thought after seeing Mir/Cro Cop). If Cro Cop was able to stifle Mir in the clinch, I think he has a shot at stifling Nelson in the clinch. I'll have to unfortunately watch Mir/Cro Cop again. Mirko showed some aggressiveness against Schaub and didn't look AS tentative as he has been.

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                • poopoo333
                  MMA *********
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 18302

                  #128
                  Originally posted by edman5555
                  I am curious to see what kind of shape Roy is in.

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                  • SPX
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 23875

                    #129
                    I agree with everyone who is saying that Nelson doesn't pose the same sorts of threats as Crocop's recent opponents. Nelson only has the big right hand. Crocop's chin is suspect so that counts for a lot, but as long as CC fights smart he can certainly win this.
                    I heart cock

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                    • Luke
                      10 year vet
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 30060

                      #130
                      ^^^^^^^^^I thought Phil Davis hurt his knee..........why is he out walking around at bars? Or is that Rashad........oh hell whoever it is
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                      • SPX
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 23875

                        #131
                        Originally posted by poopoo333
                        I'll have to unfortunately watch Mir/Cro Cop again.
                        LOL
                        I heart cock

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                        • poopoo333
                          MMA *********
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 18302

                          #132
                          Originally posted by SPX
                          LOL
                          Anybody got a link?

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                          • zY|
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 8385

                            #133
                            Is that Jay Hieron? And why did Roy shave the fucking mullet?
                            Triple-six killers in this motherfucker runnin shit

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                            • Ludo
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 4931

                              #134
                              Either Roy is slimming down or Heiron is fucking huge between fights.
                              2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
                              Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
                              Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
                              Ludo's Locks Parlay Project: +1.4u

                              2012: +20.311u

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                              • AC88
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 463

                                #135
                                I like Cro Cop in this fight. Cro Cop by dec. Roy has to land something huge to end the fight. Roy by ko or Cro Cop by dec. I say.

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