Strikeforce Semi Finals of HW GP

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  • edman5555
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 6628

    #166
    so he isnt that small. I am sure he put on muscle since being at 185.
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    • Ludo
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 4931

      #167
      He is kind of small seeing as he looks like a miniature Roy Nelson with those bitch tits. If he were willing to cut or diet down he could easily make 205 with his frame.
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      • Vandelay
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1934

        #168
        All that size means jack shit when ur going against an accomplished wrestler. For reference check randy vs lesnar, cain vs lesnar, randy vs gonzaga, etc.

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        • MMA_scientist
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 9857

          #169
          Originally posted by edman5555
          so he isnt that small. I am sure he put on muscle since being at 185.
          I am sure he has put some muscle on, but you really don't grow that much, most of these guys are fighting at the college wrestling weights. Evern Randy who is 64 years old, only fights 8 pounds above his college weight class of 197. Askren and Koscheck were 174, so they actuall weigh less now. Hendricks was 165.

          Cormier is kind of an exception though, because he has competed at HW in the olympics- I mean he won the olympic trials as a HW, so he can obviously handle the size. I forgot he fought that really big black guy in Bellator- the guy had wrestled from Iowa I think and Cormier dominated him.
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          • Ludo
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            • Jan 2010
            • 4931

            #170
            Yeah but the problem here is Bigfoot is also an accomplished grappler himself. Not to mention Cormier hasn't faced anybody even close to Bigfoot, this is a huge step up in competition.
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            • MMA_scientist
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              • Nov 2009
              • 9857

              #171
              No doubt, I only like him at + odds. I think it is very close, could go either way, slight edge to Cormier because of the wrestling and improvement in his striking.
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              • poopoo333
                MMA *********
                • Jan 2010
                • 18302

                #172
                Luke Gracie's line is getting a little worse...told you I was probably wrong.

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                • poopoo333
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                  • Jan 2010
                  • 18302

                  #173


                  5:35 is great

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                  • Luke
                    10 year vet
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 30060

                    #174
                    Originally posted by poopoo333
                    Luke Gracie's line is getting a little worse...told you I was probably wrong.
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                    • Vandelay
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1934

                      #175
                      More itd props are up on 5dimes. One step away from the sub and ko props

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                      • MMA_scientist
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 9857

                        #176
                        thanks for the update. I am hoping they come out today. Sometimes they wait until teh day before the event to release the sub props.
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                        • Vandelay
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1934

                          #177
                          I dont think they will come out till like tuesday at the earliest. Most likely thursday. Always a crapshoot as to when the lines break. U can get some stupid odds within the first hour or so.

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                          • poopoo333
                            MMA *********
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 18302

                            #178
                            Cormier by decision is sexy

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                            • edman5555
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 6628

                              #179


                              luke rockhold vs jesse taylor. Taylor takes rockhold down a couple times, gets rockholds back. Rockhold reverses him and gets the rear naked on jesse. All five of Jesse's losses are by submission but he is still no joke. That said, if JT can take his back I would give Souza a good chance.
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                              • edman5555
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 6628

                                #180


                                Rockhold vs paul bradley. Rockhold lands some good punches and drops Bradley twice. Bradley escapes pretty easy after being dropped the first time. Well timed counters from Rockhold but I think he will be slower than Souza. Special note: Rockhold is 6'3'' and Bradley is about 5'8''.

                                After watching these two fights I think Rockhold will be in trouble on the ground. His wrestling might be able to hold souza off for a little while but prob not that long. He might be able to hurt souza standing but i dont know.
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