UFC 142

[AC88]

AJ uses way more kicks and has the wrestling base to take Vitor down and hold him down.

[AC88]

I would say AJ has better striking than Vitor. I just wish it wasn't in Brazil because I know the crowd and energy has a psychological effec.t

[SPX]

As long as AJ doesn't train with Segal, I think he will send AJ back to WW.

BOL!

[Ludo]

This card is just so hard to call

Most people are calling it UFC 142.

[edman5555]

I am still on the fence about Tavares/Stout. I think I will be able to get Tavares as a dog so that will most likely equal a bet for me. I just killed myself on the Jardine fight. -2u out of my 10u bankroll for 2012. The Mayans were right.

Massenzio-Palhares. Palhares will probably muscle him around, Krystoff did and he isn't half the grappler Paulharris is. Regardless, Massenzio does technically have the grappling to win this one. Pauls line is kinda steep.
AJ Vitor is a tough one. What is Vitors takedown defense like? He should def have AJ in the standup department.BTW scientist, the clementi loss was in 2007. I worry Aj has the wrestling to take Vitor down. I think Vitor is the better standup fighter but AJ's power can't be denied.

[mike]

i think AJ at WW is like Jones at LHW. He beat ppl up with just his physical advantage. He has long reach and just tower over ppl. I dont think he's a good striker technique wise. Belfort is just about the same size, maybe a bit smaller. They both have power to KO the other if they land, with Vitor having faster hands and Johnson having better kicks. I'll go with Vitor though. He's the more proven striker. That said, i hate betting against explosive guys with KO power like Johnson. 1 punch or kick is all he needs to end the fight.

[edman5555]

What are the tools?

I think Vitor has better striking and better grappling. Cardio probably goes to AJ... But he is also going up to MW for the first time and Vitor is a big MW. I just think Vitor is a better fighter. AJ's best win is.... Hardy? Brenneman probably. I just get over him getting beaten up by Rich Clementi, I don't care how long ago it was. As long as AJ doesn't train with Segal, I think he will send AJ back to WW.

Do you think Vitor can consistently stop the takedown?

[Thewisemann]

AJ is gonna get fucked up if he can't take Vitor down. Palhares is gonna sub Massenzio in the first two min. Mendes is gonna hump Aldo for 25 min, that's gonna Prolly suck to watch. I do like Tavares over Stout at even or better.

[MMA_scientist]

-2u out of my 10u bankroll for 2012

hold the phone... you have a 10% unit? Why? You made 180% last year, that is 3 years to a $1,000,000...

[MMA_scientist]

Do you think Vitor can consistently stop the takedown?

Yeah, or get up. Vitor is pretty damn difficult to get a hold of and really hard to hold down, even for LHWs. Even prime Tito couldn't hold him down very well. Belfort is good. The only problem is that he folds if things aren't going his way. Since he has been a MW, all of his fights have gone really quickly so we haven't really seen him in deep waters in several years. He might be like BJ.

[AC88]

AJ is gonna get fucked up if he can't take Vitor down. Palhares is gonna sub Massenzio in the first two min. Mendes is gonna hump Aldo for 25 min, that's gonna Prolly suck to watch. I do like Tavares over Stout at even or better.

How much are you going to put down on Mendes?

[Luke]

-2u out of my 10u bankroll for 2012. The Mayans were right.

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You went from a 2% unit to 10% ?

Sorry bout Jardine

[Luke]

Rumble isnt beating Vitor

[edman5555]

hold the phone... you have a 10% unit? Why? You made 180% last year, that is 3 years to a $1,000,000...

My units are 100 bucks now. My 5dimes account is low, i lost 2u betting jardine and I have about 8u left. I blew my bookmaker account. I went way downhill at the end of the year. I sort of lost motivation. I am looking to make a comeback though.

[edman5555]

AJ is gonna get fucked up if he can't take Vitor down. Palhares is gonna sub Massenzio in the first two min. Mendes is gonna hump Aldo for 25 min, that's gonna Prolly suck to watch. I do like Tavares over Stout at even or better.

I am going to have to watch some tape on massenzio. I am worried Mendes can successfully hump Aldo for 25 minutes. I think Tavares can beat stout. It reminds me a lot of the match up between tavares and fischer. The only problem is Stout is a little younger than Fischer. I don't know if he is more skilled. I think they are really similar. I think Tavares will come out or end up at udog odds.