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  • MMA_scientist
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 9857

    He is a solid grappler, and he may very well be top ten skill wise... but I was laughing at the poster who was acting like it was crazy to say Palhares is not top 10 (in sub-grappling). he has only competed once, and he went 2-1, that's it. Not enough info there to be ranked in the top 10, when there are dozens of guys who actually have won their divisions still competing (5 of which competed in that very same tourney).
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    • Ludo
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 4931

      Even if he competed more I don't know that I would just rank him in the top 10 because he's a leglock savant. Cody McKenzie might be awesome at snagging and finishing chokes but that doesn't make him a top grappler.
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      • MMA_scientist
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 9857

        Yeah, but Palhares hit those heel hooks on legitimate grapplers in Lovato and Avellan. It is not like he was tapping scrubs out on TUF. Palhares is more than a leg lock machine though, he has other stuff, I recall him snagging an armbar from the back in one his first UFC fights (maybe he didn't finish it, but he got to teh back and transitioned off). I doubt he would be top 10, but you could at least argue that he has the potential... you can't argue that he actually is top 10 though. I mean, he probably isn't even top 50.
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        • poopoo333
          MMA *********
          • Jan 2010
          • 18302

          Ludo..my mic is dead

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          • MMA_scientist
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 9857

            There is a huge difference between Palhares and McKenzie for real. I cannot emphasize that enough. It is like comparing JDS's striking to someone like Brett Rogers. JDS has a real foundation with fundamentals and could probably hang with any striker in the world in a striking only match. Rogers... could not. Though they both knock dudes out in MMA.
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            • Ludo
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 4931

              I'm not comparing him to Cody, I'm just saying people see the heel hooks which is clearly his go to maneuver and automatically think he's a full on grappling elite because he is extremely good at one kind of attack. There's a difference between being all around skilled and being a savant at one piece of it.
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              • Ludo
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 4931

                Originally posted by poopoo333
                Ludo..my mic is dead
                Alright, I'll just take your silence as a license to talk shit without recourse, then.
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                • poopoo333
                  MMA *********
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 18302

                  Originally posted by Ludo
                  Alright, I'll just take your silence as a license to talk shit without recourse, then.
                  Bob Sapp vs Brock Lesnar was epic. And Ken Flo just got GTFO. last fight coming up, I'll be back though

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                  • Ludo
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 4931

                    Originally posted by poopoo333
                    Bob Sapp vs Brock Lesnar was epic. And Ken Flo just got GTFO. last fight coming up, I'll be back though
                    Yeah he did. I ran right into that uppercut. Sapp got arm triangled in like 20 seconds though.
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                    • SPX
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 23875

                      Is it possible to beat people with Bob Sapp in that shit?
                      I heart cock

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                      • Ludo
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 4931

                        Originally posted by SPX
                        Is it possible to beat people with Bob Sapp in that shit?
                        It's not easy, that motherfucker is pretty much shitty at everything in the game, just like in real life.
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                        • SPX
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 23875

                          Anyone heard the latest Korn album?
                          I heart cock

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                          • zY|
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 8385

                            I thought Issues was the last one they made.
                            Triple-six killers in this motherfucker runnin shit

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                            • SPX
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 23875

                              Originally posted by zY|
                              I thought Issues was the last one they made.
                              Something tells me you're trying to be cute. . .
                              I heart cock

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                              • zY|
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 8385

                                Yup.

                                Post up a song.
                                Triple-six killers in this motherfucker runnin shit

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