2012 Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

[poopoo333]

My religious views= I don't have any. I guess you can call me Agnostic.

[SPX]

I never understand people who are not preoccupied with thinking about death. I am always consciously aware that one day I will die. Considering the fact that it's kind of a big deal, I'd like to have some idea about what it all means.

[Svino]

So I'm not overly familiar with the story.

How is it that Hubbard claimed to know all these things? Did he receive some divine revelation from God or did he just figure it out?

The second one, basically. Hubbard is just supposed to be some incredible polymath who figured out all these spiritual truths and invented the "spiritual technology" that Scientologists use to improve themselves.

[Svino]

What are your guys religious views?

I figured it would already be clear from most of my posts, but since you ask, I'm a Rastafarian.

[Svino]

I never understand people who are not preoccupied with thinking about death. I am always consciously aware that one day I will die.

Same here. Whenever I hear people brag about not being afraid of death, I don't think they're admirably brave, I just think they're crazy.

[SPX]

Same here. Whenever I hear people brag about not being afraid of death, I don't think they're admirably brave, I just think they're crazy.

Really? You don't strike me as the type to be too concerned. I've always pegged you as the kind of guy who just says, "Well one day I'll die and that's that. It's no big deal."

[MMA_scientist]

I never understand people who are not preoccupied with thinking about death. I am always consciously aware that one day I will die. Considering the fact that it's kind of a big deal, I'd like to have some idea about what it all means.

Same here. Whenever I hear people brag about not being afraid of death, I don't think they're admirably brave, I just think they're crazy.

I wouldn't say that I am afraid to die. Not because I think there is something better on the other side... more just because I know it is both inevitable and also not unique to me. We are all going to die, why am I so special that I should freak out about it. I think people who ARE preoccupied with it are either very narcissistic or are just a little too anxiety ridden- worrying abouy something they have no control over and also a problem that is shared by 100% of us. Yes, you are going to die... so is everyone. I have been lucky in my life, and even I had to die tomorrow, I would have been better off than 99.9% of all living creatures that ever walked the earth. I may be fooling myself, but I really think I would be able to go with relative dignity and peace.

[poopoo333]

http://Globo.com reports that Rampage Jackson will fight Glover Teixeira at UFC 153

UFC 153 will be in Rio. This fight is not interesting at all...thinking UFC is trying to give Rampage a stylistically tough match up against an up and comer.

[SPX]

. . . or are just a little too anxiety ridden- worrying abouy something they have no control over. . .

Well I AM pretty anxiety-ridden.

I have never understood the "why worry about things you don't have control over?" argument, though. I mean, if you were about to be mercilessly tortured by the Iniquisition with no hope of escape, would you just be like, "Well, I don't have any control over this so I'm not going to worry about it"? I really don't think so.

[SPX]

UFC 153 will be in Rio. This fight is not interesting at all...thinking UFC is trying to give Rampage a stylistically tough match up against an up and comer.

I thought Rampage was done after the Bader fight.

[MMA_scientist]

Well I AM pretty anxiety-ridden.

I have never understood the "why worry about things you don't have control over?" argument, though. I mean, if you were about to be mercilessly tortured by the Iniquisition with no hope of escape, would you just be like, "Well, I don't have any control over this so I'm not going to worry about it"? I really don't think so.

I can understand worrying about impending death... but if you were to chance the scenario to some crystal ball moment where I knew that I would be tortured at some point, I don't think I would spend a lot of time worrying about that either. But with death, not only do I not know when it will happen, it happens to everything ever. So, it is what it is, I have made my peace with that.

[Svino]

I think people who ARE preoccupied with it are either very narcissistic or are just a little too anxiety ridden- worrying abouy something they have no control over and also a problem that is shared by 100% of us.

I see nothing narcissistic about acknowledging the simple truth that my death will be the worst thing that will ever happen (and could possibly happen) in the history of the universe.

[MMA_scientist]

I see nothing narcissistic about acknowledging the simple truth that my death will be the worst thing that will ever happen (and could possibly happen) in the history of the universe.

ha.

I guess the fact that it is not unique to me makes me feel like a bitch whining/worrying about it. I am going to die, poor me. FWIW, I can think of plenty of fates worse than death. For me, the worst possible outcome of my life is having one of my kids die or become a serious screw up (like a junkie in the gutter or something).

[SPX]

ha.

I guess the fact that it is not unique to me makes me feel like a bitch whining/worrying about it. I am going to die, poor me. FWIW, I can think of plenty of fates worse than death. For me, the worst possible outcome of my life is having one of my kids die or become a serious screw up (like a junkie in the gutter or something).

The thing is that we don't know what death means.

If you're under the assumption that it simply means that your consciousness disappears then I guess there's really not that much to worry about. But if you think that something might actually happen after death, then it makes sense to want to make sure that it's something good.

Without knowing was death really is it's kind of hard to know how to feel about it.

[MMA_scientist]

The thing is that we don't know what death means.

If you're under the assumption that it simply means that your consciousness disappears then I guess there's really not that much to worry about. But if you think that something might actually happen after death, then it makes sense to want to make sure that it's something good.

Without knowing was death really is it's kind of hard to know how to feel about it.

I guess. But I really don't see how it can be anything bad... so even if there is more than nothingness, it almost can't be bad. So I just operate under the nothingness approach, and maybe I will be pleasantly surprised. Even Christian scholars can't really answer the "Problem of Hell" with any satisfactory explanations. There is either the Universalist approach, or the "humans are too limited to understand" approach. Both are pretty flawed.

So unless you fear that Islam might be the one true religion... you are pretty much good to go.