UFC 146

[MMA_scientist]

Miller might be undervalued due to his embarassing showing against Bisping. You don't think Miller could submit CB?

[poopoo333]

Miller might be undervalued due to his embarassing showing against Bisping. You don't think Miller could submit CB?

Yeah, I guess he could. But if his cardio is like it was against Bisping, he is gonna need to get the sub in the 1st.

[poopoo333]

MAIN CARD (pay-per-view)

• Champ Junior Dos Santos vs. Frank Mir (for heavyweight title)
• Antonio Silva vs. Cain Velasquez
• Dave Herman vs. Roy Nelson
• Shane Del Rosario vs. Stipe Miocic
• Mark Hunt vs. Stefan Struve

PRELIMINARY CARD

• Diego Brandao vs. Darren Elkins
• Edson Barboza vs. Jamie Varner
• C.B. Dollaway vs. Jason "Mayhem" Miller
• Paul Sass vs. Jacob Volkmann
• Dan Hardy vs. Duane "Bang" Ludwig
• Kyle Kingsbury vs. Glover Teixeira
• Mike Brown vs. Daniel Pineda

[MMA_scientist]

Miller has always had good cardio in the past. He was able to nearly submit Shields and he was able to fend off Jacare grappling, though he did get schooled. I don't know, maybe his fame and money has changed him. I think he could beat CB though, assuming he comes committed to the takedown. He got Bisping down, I think he can get CB down.

[MMA_scientist]

Curious to see what Volkmann does with Sassangle. Also want to see what Texiera can do with Kingsbury.

[poopoo333]

JDS by murder.
Cain by murder.

I think Nelson will get a win here, he might get beat up a little in round 1, but then Pee Wee will gas and get taken down and pounded out/subbed/laid on for a decision.

Stipe/SDR is a mystery but I favor Stipe. SDR's lay off, injuries, and questionable cardio might not hold up to Stipe's aggressive striking and superior wrestling. Wouldn't go big on this though..

I've been fading Hunt since the McCorkle fight and it only worked out in the McCorkle fight. I originally liked Struve, but can he get Hunt down? Looking for opinions on this one.

Brandao/Elkins...I like Elkins if he is a big dog, dat dere wrestler value.

Barboza is gonna make Varner look silly, then Varner can lisp another retirement speech.

I think Dollaway will probably beat Miller by a top control decision

Volkmann should beat Sass if he can avoid the sub. Volkmann likes to be on top and Sass seems to be able to pull off subs from the bottom with his aggressive style.

Hardy/Ludwig...no idea. Would think Ludwig is technically better, but he fades in fights. Maybe Hardy comes as NCAA hardy? Who knows..not sure who to pick in this one.

Never seen Teixeira fight, but isn't he some kind of striker? Will Kingsbury be able to use his TRT body and grind out a decision?

Brown/Pineda..IDK LOL

[MMA_scientist]

I've been fading Hunt since the McCorkle fight and it only worked out in the McCorkle fight. I originally liked Struve, but can he get Hunt down? Looking for opinions on this one.

Brandao/Elkins...I like Elkins if he is a big dog, dat dere wrestler value.


Never seen Teixeira fight, but isn't he some kind of striker? Will Kingsbury be able to use his TRT body and grind out a decision?

I like HUnt to keep the dream alive. Don't think Struve can get him down, Struve is chinny, Hunt hits like a truck.

I don't think Elkins is a good enough wrestler to make that work against Brandao, unless he can survive until round 3 and wear him out.

Texiera is a BJJ grappler, top oriented. He bangs too, but he will be looking for a TD to win.

[poopoo333]

Frank Mir vs Junior Dos Santos - 5 rounds - UFC 146 propositions
Sat 5/26		1003 Mir/Dos Santos goes 5 round distance		+450
11:00PM		1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance		-750
Sat 5/26		1005 Mir wins inside distance		+511
11:00PM		1006 Not Mir inside distance		-932
Sat 5/26		1007 Mir wins by 5 round decision		+1150
11:00PM		1008 Not Mir by 5 round decision		-2450
Sat 5/26		1009 Dos Santos wins inside distance		-318
11:00PM		1010 Not Dos Santos inside distance		+238
Sat 5/26		1011 Dos Santos wins by 5 round decision		+696
11:00PM		1012 Not Dos Santos by 5 round decision		-1487
Sat 5/26		1013 Mir/Dos Santos draw		+8500
11:00PM		1014 Fight not a draw		-23000
Antonio Silva vs Cain Velasquez - 3 rounds - UFC 146 propositions
Sat 5/26		1103 Silva/Velasquez goes 3 round distance		+350
11:00PM		1104 Fight won't go 3 round distance		-530
Stipe Miocic vs Shane del Rosario - 3 rounds - UFC 146 propositions
Sat 5/26		1303 Miocic/Del Rosario goes 3 round distance		+160
10:00PM		1304 Fight won't go 3 round distance		-210
Mark Hunt vs Stefan Struve - 3 rounds - UFC 146 propositions
Sat 5/26		1403 Hunt/Struve goes 3 round distance		+350
10:00PM		1404 Fight won't go 3 round distance		-530
Sat 5/26		1405 Hunt wins inside distance		+102
10:00PM		1406 Not Hunt inside distance		-142
Sat 5/26		1407 Hunt wins by 3 round decision		+1075
10:00PM		1408 Not Hunt by 3 round decision		-2225
Sat 5/26		1409 Struve wins inside distance		+155
10:00PM		1410 Not Struve inside distance		-195
Sat 5/26		1411 Struve wins by 3 round decision		+516
10:00PM		1412 Not Struve by 3 round decision		-947
Sat 5/26		1413 Hunt/Struve draw		+7000
10:00PM		1414 Fight not a draw		-18500

[poopoo333]

Texiera is a BJJ grappler, top oriented. He bangs too, but he will be looking for a TD to win.

How much better than Bonnar is he at what Bonnar did to Kingsbury?

[edman5555]

I think Hunt/Struve is a tossup. Hunt is much stronger standing and STruve is much stronger on the ground.

[MMA_scientist]

How much better than Bonnar is he at what Bonnar did to Kingsbury?

I would say he is significantly better than Bonnar on the ground. He beat Dean Lister in ADCC 2009. But, he may not be as big and strong, which probably helped Bonnar against Kingsbury.

[poopoo333]

Barboza opened @-298.

Got him -310 to win 1u

[poopoo333]

Seriously don't understand Barboza opens at what he did with Dunham against Varner..

[poopoo333]

And Roy Nelson opened -160..missed it. damnit

[mike]

And Roy Nelson opened -160..missed it. damnit

damn i would be all over that one. it's -270 now, yikes.