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  • MMA_scientist
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 9857

    Originally posted by SPX
    Phil Ivey accused of cheating at Baccarat. Casino owes his $12M but refuses to pay:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/the-tu...032520482.html
    How is that cheating? Hopefully he wins his suit.
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    • SPX
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 23875

      Yeah, no shit. It seems about as close to cheating as card counting is.

      I wonder if that's even what he was doing.
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      • MMA_scientist
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 9857

        Dreams are awesome. We go to sleep, some weird stuff happens and then we realize it wasn't real. That is pretty goddamned cool if you think about it.

        I have been having crazy dreams that I remember every night lately. I have recurring dream which I haven't had in many years, but I had it again last night.
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        • SPX
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 23875

          I have a lot of crazy as shit dreams and a few that recur regularly.

          The theme that keeps coming back over and over for some reason is the one where either I'm running from the cops/government so that I don't go to prison or I'm in prison and I have to figure out how to escape. I also have this strange dream that comes back from time to time where I'm having to fight someone but for some reason all my movements are in slow motion and I can't fight at full speed.

          Fuck both of those dreams.

          BTW, you get my PM?
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          • MMA_scientist
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 9857

            X, that is almost the same exact recurring dream that I have. It is always a different setting, but the theme is that I am running and a whole bunch of people are chasing me either trying to put me in jail or kill me. I hide in some really weird places and it usually ends when there is no hope of escape, although once I got shot in my dream. The bullet went in and just healed up like a jelly cyst under my skin. I was like fuck you bitches I don't die. That one sucks while having it,but I really like waking up from it and thinking about it. The other one that I have had maybe 4 or 5 times is that my son drowns in the river, and I can't find him underwater. Fuck that one all the way.

            I have had the slo mo fighting dream a few times too, but it has been a while since I had that one.

            I really like having dreams in general. I think about it and I am like- what the hell is that? Why did that just imaginary happen?

            I got your pm. thanks.
            Last edited by MMA_scientist; 05-14-2013, 02:05 PM.
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            • SPX
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 23875

              Dude, that sounds exactly like the dreams I have! I also refuse to die. I've been shot, but I usually just pull the bullet out and go on about my business or some shit like that. I've also fallen off/got thrown off some really high shit, and every time I hit the ground just right so that I don't get hurt.

              Some people say if you die in your dream you die in real life. Seems hard to prove but I know my ass NEVER dies.
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              • MMA_scientist
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 9857

                That is a myth (dying in a dream kills you in IRL). That's weird that you have my dream. Have you every tried to figure out why you have it? It seems related to stress to me. I don't really buy into dream interpretation, but there has to be a reason why I keep having the same dream, it can't just be random. To me, dreams are the only "supernatural" type of phenomenon that I have personally experienced... I have never had an eerie of weird feeling, never had a panic attack, or never seen something that wasnt there. There is no reason we have them as far as I can tell, and they are crazy weird, which to me is awesome. I wonder if there is a way I can remember them more often.
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                • SPX
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 23875

                  They're clearly pulled from our subconscious.

                  In some cases, I think it's overt. When I'm really focused on something I tend to dream of that thing . . . a girl, an activity, an object. For instance, if I'm really focused on bodybuilding then I have bodybuilding dreams.

                  In other cases I think that instead of being so literal our dreams tend to pull more primal things out of the deep recesses of our mind and give them form. In my case, I think the running from the law/prison dreams are both literal and symbolic. On one hand, I don't at all like the idea of the police/government fucking with me or the power that they have to do so. And going to prison is, for me, one of the most terrifying thoughts I can come up with.

                  On the other hand, I also think it's generally about feeling oppressed in my life and feeling like there's something I need to escape from. I think that deep within I feel like our human existence is very threatening . . . something's always trying to get us, whether it's illness, pianos falling from the sky, psycho murderers and rapists, jihadists, rattlesnakes, etc. And then there are those things that are less deadly but still greatly effect our quality of life . . . finances and work, significant others, friends, etc.

                  So life can be very constricting and oppressive. And I think it's a recognition of that which plays greatly into those dreams for me.
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                  • MMA_scientist
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 9857

                    I can see that. I have had this sensation since I was kid that it was all going to come crashing down at some point, like there is no way the universe is going to let me succeed. Every milestone that passes, I am actually surprised and relieved, that the gods did not collude to deny me. But as for actually feeling actual anxiety, I have very little of it. I just assume that when the fall from glory comes, I will accept it with stoicism. My entire life people have commented on my basic lack of urgency and anxiety... but maybe I just internalize it. I don't know, but it seems plausible I suppose.

                    I don't know that it is clear that dreams come from our subconscious, at least not all of them. Sometimes I will just have some nonsensical madness going on in there. I know that this is the basic freudian concept, but I don't know that the matter is completely settled. But even if it is, it is still weird and awesome that our brains and deep seeded true selves come bubbling out in our sleep.

                    As far as my son drowning and me being helpless against the murky Ohio river- that is, in fact, the worst fear I can imagine. So you are probably on to something there.

                    I also still have the occasional nocturnal emission. Fuck yeah.
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                    • Mr. IWS
                      215 Hustler
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 98674

                      About 15 years ago, I kept having this recurring dream about being inside my grade school. I was in the neighborhood working one day, so I popped in around 3pm to say whats up to a couple of my teachers. I Never had the dream again.

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                      • MMA_scientist
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 9857

                        Originally posted by Mr. IWS
                        About 15 years ago, I kept having this recurring dream about being inside my grade school. I was in the neighborhood working one day, so I popped in around 3pm to say whats up to a couple of my teachers. I Never had the dream again.

                        inb4coolstorybro

                        carry on..........


                        I dream I am in HS wrestling sometimes, I have probably had that dream 10 times. I actually forgot about that until you said that. I don't think of it much because it doesn't seem profound like my other dreams do... but I guess it probably says as much as anything.

                        As for your grade school dream, obvious pedo dream.
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                        • SPX
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 23875

                          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                          I can see that. I have had this sensation since I was kid that it was all going to come crashing down at some point, like there is no way the universe is going to let me succeed. Every milestone that passes, I am actually surprised and relieved, that the gods did not collude to deny me. But as for actually feeling actual anxiety, I have very little of it. I just assume that when the fall from glory comes, I will accept it with stoicism. My entire life people have commented on my basic lack of urgency and anxiety... but maybe I just internalize it. I don't know, but it seems plausible I suppose.
                          That's interesting. I can't say I would have suspected that of you.

                          I think that I'm always living under this dark cloud of human existence, in which we, in these relatively fragile bodies, must traverse perilous ground of life. And if we succeed, what's our reward? To get old and die.

                          This is also why, from a philosophical standpoint, it just doesn't make sense to me that there is no existence beyond this one, no continuation of our consciousness, no continuation of our journey. Deep within me I feel that, on some level that we can't see right now, all of this has to make sense.


                          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                          I don't know that it is clear that dreams come from our subconscious, at least not all of them. Sometimes I will just have some nonsensical madness going on in there. I know that this is the basic freudian concept, but I don't know that the matter is completely settled. But even if it is, it is still weird and awesome that our brains and deep seeded true selves come bubbling out in our sleep.
                          My understanding is that we only remember a fraction of our dreams. I have definitely had dreams that were weird as shit, but even then, it seems there's always some kind of narrative or connection with myself as a person.

                          Have you ever had a lucid dream? I've had a few dreams where I became aware that I was dreaming and started trying to control it, but every time I wake up almost immediately after. It's gay.


                          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                          As far as my son drowning and me being helpless against the murky Ohio river- that is, in fact, the worst fear I can imagine. So you are probably on to something there.
                          I could definitely see how that would be a terrible thing. I have to say though, from what you've revealed about yourself on this forum, I can't really imagine you ever getting particularly emotional. I can't imagine you being really sad, or really joyous, or really scared. I typically think of you as just going through life with a smirk and a pretty narrow range of emotional latitude.


                          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                          I also still have the occasional nocturnal emission. Fuck yeah.
                          That literally has never happened to me. Not even when I was a kid.
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                          • SPX
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 23875

                            Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                            As for your grade school dream, obvious pedo dream.
                            Serious interpretation:

                            Subconsciously he yearns for the fun loving, care free days of his youth. Going to the school was closure and told his inner mind to that it was okay to embrace the present and move into the future.
                            Last edited by SPX; 05-14-2013, 05:51 PM.
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                            • MMA_scientist
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 9857

                              Originally posted by SPX
                              That's interesting. I can't say I would have suspected that of you.

                              I think that I'm always living under this dark cloud of human existence, in which we, in these relatively fragile bodies, must traverse perilous ground of life. And if we succeed, what's our reward? To get old and die.

                              This is also why, from a philosophical standpoint, it just doesn't make sense to me that there is no existence beyond this one, no continuation of our consciousness, no continuation of our journey. Deep within me I feel that, on some level that we can't see right now, all of this has to make sense.
                              I understand that mentality. It is pretty bleak, but I don't know that this means that it must work out in the end. It could just be a random accident that we became self-aware, and then we die. Part of me hopes that it is a random accident, that frees me from pretty much any moral responsibility. But, like you, I have a sense that there is more. Maybe it is just an evolutionary remnant... but I also think that sometimes we attribute way too much authority to logic and discount some of our other intuitions too much. I really don't know the answer, but as we have discussed before... worrying about it does me no good and it helps comfort me to know that we all suffer the same fate.







                              Originally posted by SPX
                              My understanding is that we only remember a fraction of our dreams. I have definitely had dreams that were weird as shit, but even then, it seems there's always some kind of narrative or connection with myself as a person.

                              Have you ever had a lucid dream? I've had a few dreams where I became aware that I was dreaming and started trying to control it, but every time I wake up almost immediately after. It's gay.
                              I have some dreams where it is basically just a rorchach of weird things with no narrative at all. I am not even in the dream sometimes.


                              yeah, I have had many lucid dreams, I started being able to sometimes dictate the narrative dream when I was a kid. It does suck when you wake up.



                              Originally posted by SPX
                              I could definitely see how that would be a terrible thing. I have to say though, from what you've revealed about yourself on this forum, I can't really imagine you ever getting particularly emotional. I can't imagine you being really sad, or really joyous, or really scared. I typically think of you as just going through life with a smirk and a pretty narrow range of emotional latitude.
                              Well, a lot of people say that about me IRL too. But the truth is that I am actually just an eternal optimist that recognizes that whatever fate we suffer, it can be put in perspective. Lost a limb? At least you lived. Going to die? Lucky you, you go to live in the most amazing era in the history of the entire universe!

                              I think my job desensitized me to an extent as well. I wish I could unsee some shit for sure. But when I was a kid, I was very sensitive (but not emotional, never been one to lose my cool). I still have quite a bit more empathy for others than I let on, but in the grand scheme of things, I am pretty stoic due to my eternal optimism.

                              But if my kid died, I would probably have to kill myself, I wouldn't be able to handle it. I do get somewhat carried away about them, the waterworks started when I left him at kindergarten the first day. I was like "what is this wet shit coming out of my eyes? it burns" I get choked up occasionally, but never about sad stuff.



                              Originally posted by spx
                              That literally has never happened to me. Not even when I was a kid.
                              I have them about once per year. I get up in the middle of the night to change my undies, and I have to tell my wife I jizzed my shorts again. I even pissed the bed a few months ago because in my dream I was all mixed up.
                              Last edited by MMA_scientist; 05-14-2013, 05:33 PM.
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                              • Vandelay
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 1934

                                Scientist, any opinion on this?

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