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  • Mr. IWS
    215 Hustler
    • Sep 2006
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    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

    Get Uriah Faber on the line............diego is on a liquid diet after Thiago Rapes his ass BOPE style.
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    • Ludo
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      • Jan 2010
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      Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

      Lets not jump the gun here guys. He got his shit pushed in by BJ Penn who has eaten Wrestlers with average striking alive his entire career. He went back to Welterweight for the first time in over a year and a half (since he started his career at Lightweight against Joe Stevenson at UFC95 if I remember right) and got outboxed by a very long Hathaway who is clearly a more accomplished striker and had an above average sprawl. It's not like he just went 0-2 to scrubs who he should have beaten.

      He has the skillset to beat Paulo Thiago who was just shown to have a less than stellar bottom game. Diego has never been submitted against the likes of BJ Penn(who he didn't spend any time on the ground with really), Nick Diaz, or Karo Parysian. 7 of Paulo's 8 submission victories came from the top at least in how he got to the positions. I've not been impressed with his bottom game and if Sanchez takes him down we know Sanchez has above average top control as well as extensive submission skills both offensive and defensively. I can see this one going to Diego by way of unanimous decision.
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      • MMA_scientist
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        • Nov 2009
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        Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

        Diego is an underrated grappler. There is 0% chace Paulo subs him. Actually, I would give the bjj advantage to Diego. He went liek 15 minutes with Marcelo Garcia in ADCC before he started training in bjj. He started as a whitebelt with Saulo Ribiero after he left Jackson's and earned his blackbelt the traditional way. Saulo is old school as hell. He would not be giving a blackbelt for advertising, unlike Rolles who gave a blackbelt to Rashad. I am sure Rashad could beat most blackbelts in bjj, but I seriously doubt he has a blackbelt level guard or submission skills.

        Anyway, Diego is legit on the gound, unless he is nearly unconscious from a shot, he is not going to get subbed by Paulo.

        That said, Diego has overrated striking and wrestling. And he is a lot smaller than Paulo. So Paulo may win, but not by submission.
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        • Ludo
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          • Jan 2010
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          Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
          Diego is an underrated grappler. There is 0% chace Paulo subs him. Actually, I would give the bjj advantage to Diego. He went liek 15 minutes with Marcelo Garcia in ADCC before he started training in bjj. He started as a whitebelt with Saulo Ribiero after he left Jackson's and earned his blackbelt the traditional way. Saulo is old school as hell. He would not be giving a blackbelt for advertising, unlike Rolles who gave a blackbelt to Rashad. I am sure Rashad could beat most blackbelts in bjj, but I seriously doubt he has a blackbelt level guard or submission skills.

          Anyway, Diego is legit on the gound, unless he is nearly unconscious from a shot, he is not going to get subbed by Paulo.

          That said, Diego has overrated striking and wrestling. And he is a lot smaller than Paulo. So Paulo may win, but not by submission.

          It looks like they both have overrated striking then. If I had to give the edge I'd give it to Paulo and only because he has shown more one strike KO power in his hands. However Diego is easily the faster of the two and I think he can snag a few takedowns and grind this one out.
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          • poopoo333
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            • Jan 2010
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            Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

            Just read on sherdog that Tito/Forrest 3 is in talks for this card. Probably not true though

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            • Luke
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              • Oct 2006
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              Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

              Originally posted by poopoo333
              Just read on sherdog that Tito/Forrest 3 is in talks for this card. Probably not true though

              Wouldnt surprise me
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              • SPX
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                • Aug 2009
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                Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                Originally posted by poopoo333
                Just read on sherdog that Tito/Forrest 3 is in talks for this card. Probably not true though
                Tito needs to fucking fight CHUCK!
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                • Mr. IWS
                  215 Hustler
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 98806

                  Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                  ^^^^^^^^^This

                  I dont care which guy he fights, Im going against Tito.
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                  • MMA_scientist
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                    • Nov 2009
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                    Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                    Tito/Shamrock 4. Who's with me?
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                    • poopoo333
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                      • Jan 2010
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                      Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                      I don't want to see Tito fight Forrest again, I want to see Tito actually win a fight. I feel bad for that guy

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                      • MMA_scientist
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
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                        Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                        ^ I don't. When he was young and good he shit all everyone and everything. Now that he is old and sucky, he wants to be revered as some iconic figure. He burned all his bridges and no one would pay him, then he had to come crawling back to Dana with his tail between his legs.

                        I feel that he is partially retarded though, so I do feel a little bad for him in that sense.

                        I want to see him fight someone new though. Someone relevant. Thiago Silva or Bones or Hammill or Franklin or someone. I would rather see him rematch Randy than Forrest.
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                        • Mr. IWS
                          215 Hustler
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 98806

                          Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                          Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                          I feel that he is partially retarded though, so I do feel a little bad for him in that sense.
                          lol
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                          • poopoo333
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                            • Jan 2010
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                            Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                            WHAT THE FUCK

                            http://mmajunkie.com/news/20019/matt-ha ... ctober.mma

                            oh and schaub vs gonzaga as well was addded

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                            • Mr. IWS
                              215 Hustler
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 98806

                              Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                              Originally posted by poopoo333
                              WHAT THE FUCK

                              http://mmajunkie.com/news/20019/matt-ha ... ctober.mma

                              oh and schaub vs gonzaga as well was addded
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                              • MMA_scientist
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                                Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

                                That was one of my matchups for him. I like that a lot better. And Gonzaga/Schaub = awesome. Great matchmaking right there.
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