UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Gonzaga is going to smash Schaub.

[youtube:2sf47z7l]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaqEB8fZGGI[/youtube:2sf47z7l]

[youtube:2sf47z7l]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg0l0l9qYAM[/youtube:2sf47z7l]

[SPX]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

^^^ LOL @ Gonzaga

I've not seen this more whimsical side of him before.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Gonzaga's videos rule. I'm not even kidding.

[youtube:1xary3lf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TMxX9n6zJk[/youtube:1xary3lf]

[youtube:1xary3lf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6197Nh7PNQ[/youtube:1xary3lf]

[SPX]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Gonzaga's videos rule. I'm not even kidding.

[youtube:azbqmago]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TMxX9n6zJk[/youtube:azbqmago]

[youtube:azbqmago]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6197Nh7PNQ[/youtube:azbqmago]

Not sure what the fuck I just watched.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Not sure what the fuck I just watched.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Not sure what the fuck I just watched.

They're called youtube videos .They have been out for a while

[Ludo]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Not sure what the fuck I just watched.

They're called youtube videos .They have been out for a while

[Luke]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Gilbert Yvel vs. Jon Madsen set for UFC 121



Full fight card :


MAIN CARD
•Champ Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez (for heavyweight title)
•Martin Kampmann vs. Jake Shields
•Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago
•Matt Hamill vs. Tito Ortiz
•Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Brendan Schaub

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)
•Ryan Jensen vs. Court McGee
•Patrick Cote vs. Tom Lawlor

PRELIMINARY CARD (un-aired)

•Sam Stout vs. Paul Taylor
•Mike Guymon vs. Daniel Roberts
•Chris Camozzi vs. Dongi Yang
•Jon Madsen vs. Gilbert Yvel

[MMA_scientist]

UFC 121



I am going big on Cain.

As I have said, I think the wrestling is close... the difference between a d1 champion and a guy who placed 5th is very small... maybe even just the difference between a good day and a bad day. Throw in a cage at the edge of the mat, one guy just trying not to get taken down (not engaging in a takedown battle) and some strikes, and 8 years passage of time... and I think the wrestling is about even...

Then I stated looking closer after what someone on the grappling forum said. If Brock had been wrestling in 2006 when Cain was wrestling, he would not even have been champion. Mocco and Konrad were wrestling during this time period, and both, especially Mocco, are studs that would have beaten Brock IMO. I think Cain might even be a better pure wrestler than Brock, he might have been champion too if he wrestled when Brock did.

Cain has better hands. He is faster and he is not a millionaire. He has to be hungry and training like a psycho. He comes from a better camp with better partners. I am favoring Cain quite a bit now. I don't see that Brock has any advantage at all in this fight except size...

3u on Cain @ +135

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 121

You dont think the size difference will come into play at all?

[sbjj]

Re: UFC 121

I am with you Scientist...BIG TIME.

This will be at least a 20 unit play for me. This is one of those 3 to 5 fights a year that I will hit very hard.

I also agree with you about the wrestling. Cain pretty much never stopped training wrestling. Brock on the other hand spent many years in the pro wrestling circuit not training. Brock wil be bigger, But Cain will be faster and more agile. Like I said earlier, I would not be surprised if Brock spent more time on his back in this contest.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 121

I am with you Scientist...BIG TIME.

This will be at least a 20 unit play for me. This is one of those 3 to 5 fights a year that I will hit very hard.

I also agree with you about the wrestling. Cain pretty much never stopped training wrestling. Brock on the other hand spent many years in the pro wrestling circuit not training. Brock wil be bigger, But Cain will be faster and more agile. Like I said earlier, I would not be surprised if Brock spent more time on his back in this contest.

It doesnt bother you Cain couldnt hold down Rothwell who isnt even close to the wrestler Lesnar is or the fact Kongo rocked Cain several times ?


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[Luke]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

bump . Can we combine the two threads?

[sbjj]

Re: UFC 121

I am with you Scientist...BIG TIME.

This will be at least a 20 unit play for me. This is one of those 3 to 5 fights a year that I will hit very hard.

I also agree with you about the wrestling. Cain pretty much never stopped training wrestling. Brock on the other hand spent many years in the pro wrestling circuit not training. Brock wil be bigger, But Cain will be faster and more agile. Like I said earlier, I would not be surprised if Brock spent more time on his back in this contest.

It doesnt bother you Cain could hold down Rothwell who isnt even close to the wrestler Lesnar is or the fact Kongo took down Cain ?

I saw Cain hold down Rothwell better than anyone has ever held him down. And when Rothwell attempted to get up he was blasted in the face numerous times.

Brock had trouble holding Randy and Heath down, who IMO are probably easier to hold down than Ben. It sorta does not matter, as I do not see that as Cains path to victory, but it would not surprise me if Brock ended up on his back in the later rounds.

Kongo took Cain down? Are you talking about after getting hit in the face? I seem to remember 99% of that fight was Cain on top of Kongo.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 121

^^^ yeah I meant Kongo rocking him


I just dont understand all the love for Cain .How do you guys that like Cain see this playing out?