UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13th

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

^ I am on that decision prop @ -200 or better.

Don't know if you saw this little tidbut from Nate:
"He’s a very hard guy to attack, so unless I can get him to come out of his shell and kind of attack me more, it could be a chess match until I find that opening and who knows how long that will take because this is for a title shot and I’m not going to go in there and try to put on the most exciting fight and lose the fight,” said Marquardt.

I think Noke will beat Kimmons as well. Noke probably should have won TUF, but some guys don't deal well with having to fight so often and the dynamic of the show. I think might be one of the rare underrated TUF grads.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

The only thing that worried me is the fact that Noke was taken down repeatidly by Kris Mccray. I think his lack of wrestling cost him the decision. I think Kimmons is all about getting the takedown but I really haven't seen a lot of footage on Noke. I watched a bit on Kimmons, because I was placing a bet on his fight a while back.

The only reason this one jumped out at me was because Noke has quality fights against Sot and Lombard and Kimmons is not very good. However Kimmons has 5 fights in the ufc and is 3-2. He might come out as the favorite.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

Nice Denis Siver HL


[youtube:1o4pw5i3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpzORCkIGZM[/youtube:1o4pw5i3]

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

I used my twitter account yesterday to ask Phil Baroni what he thinks about the Yushin Okami-Nate Marquardt match up. He told me he has a feeling Yushin will win.

I also watched the Thales Leites/Nate fight last night. I don't know if Thales striking is just that much better than I thought but he did pretty well against Nate. He dropped him in the first couple of minutes, but ended up getting kinda owned on the feet for the remainder of the fight. Though that may have been because Thales was so rocked from that illegal knee he took in the beginning. That seemed to throw him off, it might have been a different fight if it was not for that.


Looking at his last fights, he has done well in the striking department. He has been fighting a lot of grapplers though. Maia, Dean Lister, Rhousimar Palhares, Jeremy Horn, Gouviea(all around but really a C level fighter). He was obliterated by Silva, and about even? with Thales.

Aside from those he has def rocked the comp as far as grapplers go and he schooled Kampmann. I don't know what to think about Kampmanns striking, he looks good..I have heard a lot about it but you know how the hype goes. His striking is good but it seems like he wins more with his grappling than people really give him credit for. Nate is also much larger.

Yushin has the wrestling advantage. He has gone up against guys with good striking like Belcher(though he was young at the time), A Silva(ended too early to tell), Swick, Munoz has semi decent striking(maybe semi shitty). He seems to mostly win with Wrestling/Judo though.

I guess it is somewhat even on the feet, maybe a slight edge to Marquardt though I am not sold on his striking.

Takedown defense is def Yushin, Munoz tried like hell to get him down. Jake shields even had a somewhat difficult time doing it though he did get them.

Takedowns has to be Yushin but I don't know how easy of a time he will have landing them..

Logic would dictate that Yushin's standup should fare better because Nate has to watch out for the Takedowns but this one is so close.

I think Yushin can win but most likely by Decision..I keep checking the damn odds but they aren't posting.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

Yeah, I am leaning more and more towards Yushin now. I put it at about even, maybe slight edge to Yushin now. I keep checking for the decision props to come out too... If Okami hits +200, I am going to toss down a bet. I don't know how much better the decision prop odds will be for Okami than +200.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

Yeah Yushin goes to decision a lot but he did have a 2nd round tko of Lucio Linhares recently and Nate has 4 tkos in his last 5 fights so the bookies might see it as an unlikely outcome but I doubt it. He is at +180 regularly so I would expect at least +250 for Dec, honestly I am hoping for over +300

[SPX]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

Yeah Yushin goes to decision a lot but he did have a 2nd round tko of Lucio Linhares recently. . .

He schooled Lucio on the feet, no doubt, but you should clarify that it was a doctor stoppage and not a true TKO.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

oh ok

[SPX]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

oh ok

Don't get smart with me, boy.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

I've got to say this is likely the worst UFC fight card I've ever seen.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

oh ok

Don't get smart with me, boy.

Don't get your panties in a bunch.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

I've got to say this is likely the worst UFC fight card I've ever seen.

Someone one Sherdog was complaining about that too, and honestly, I don't get it. What's the problem?

Nate vs Okami is significant as it determines the #1 contender. Will Nate get that second title shot that he's long been fighting for? Or will Okami finally get the shot that many feel is long overdue?

Rivera vs Sakara - should be a damn good fight
Siver vs Winner - should also be a good fight
Amir vs Sobatta - I don't know shit about Sabotta, but Amir's usually fun to watch
K-Sos vs Goran - should be yet another good, exciting fight

Unless you're just pissed there aren't a lot of big names, I honestly don't see what the problem is. We all know that big names don't always equal exciting fights anyway.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

Yeah I think this card is great too, especially for a free card.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

The co-main event is Alessio Sakara vs Jorge Rivera. Nuff said. This card is garbage. I can't even think of a worse Fight Night card.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 122 Germany to air for free on Spike on November 13

Siver is awesome to watch fight. MArq-Okami is important. The rest will be slugfests. They try to make FN cards this way, lots of standup action with a semi decent headliner. How many free cards are better than this?