UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

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  • poopoo333
    MMA *********
    • Jan 2010
    • 18302

    #196
    Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

    Yeah, we see it basically the same way. Bocek was also handling Miller on the ground and probably should have gotten the decision imo in their fight as well. I think this fight will either be a close one with Miller pulling off a decision, or Oliveira winning decisively and having a true "coming out party".

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    • sbjj
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 1418

      #197
      Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

      I seriously do not recall Efrain taking a round from Oliveira. You sure you are not thinking of the Efrain-Dunham fight.

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      • edman5555
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 6628

        #198
        Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

        I remember Oliv beating Efrain all rounds on my scorecard, but the judges gave Efrain R1. I think Oliveira may have pulled guard and Efrain got top position. You know how incompetant retard judges will evaluate that.
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        • poopoo333
          MMA *********
          • Jan 2010
          • 18302

          #199
          Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

          Originally posted by edman5555
          I remember Oliv beating Efrain all rounds on my scorecard, but the judges gave Efrain R1. I think Oliveira may have pulled guard and Efrain got top position. You know how incompetant retard judges will evaluate that.
          Oliveira went for a takedown but actually ended up on his back to close out round 1. For some reason I keep thinking Escudero got the TD and stayed on top, even after watching the video again the other day. Escudero did stuff Oliveira a couple times in that fight, but in the 3rd round Escudero kicked him in the balls and Oliveira went apeshit afterwards fighting like a malfunctioned robot before throwing Escudero against the cage and slamming him down. So if Miller kicks Oliveira in the balls at least once, Oliveira should win for sure.

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          • MMA_scientist
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 9857

            #200
            Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

            Originally posted by sbjj
            I seriously do not recall Efrain taking a round from Oliveira. You sure you are not thinking of the Efrain-Dunham fight.
            SD gave Rd 1 to Efrain. It could have gone either way
            2012: +19.33
            2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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            • MMA_scientist
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 9857

              #201
              Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

              Originally posted by poopoo333
              Oliveira went for a takedown but actually ended up on his back to close out round 1. For some reason I keep thinking Escudero got the TD and stayed on top, even after watching the video again the other day. Escudero did stuff Oliveira a couple times in that fight, but in the 3rd round Escudero kicked him in the balls and Oliveira went apeshit afterwards fighting like a malfunctioned robot before throwing Escudero against the cage and slamming him down. So if Miller kicks Oliveira in the balls at least once, Oliveira should win for sure.
              The grappling was somewhat competitive when it happened... I think Efrain nearly took his back at one point.
              2012: +19.33
              2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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              • poopoo333
                MMA *********
                • Jan 2010
                • 18302

                #202
                Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

                I think it is best to stay away from this fight, but I might take Miller if it gets up to like +140 or +150ish.

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                • SPX
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 23875

                  #203
                  Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

                  Originally posted by poopoo333
                  So if Miller kicks Oliveira in the balls at least once, Oliveira should win for sure.
                  LOL
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                  • MMA_scientist
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 9857

                    #204
                    Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

                    Thinking about:

                    Not Kos by Sub/Not Danzig by sub/Not Alves by sub/Not Miller by sub/Not McCorkle wins in rd 3

                    4 to win .91u One more -1500 line would get me to about -275

                    What in that might happen? I think the weak link is McCorkle...
                    2012: +19.33
                    2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                    • poopoo333
                      MMA *********
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 18302

                      #205
                      Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

                      I don't see McCorkle finishing in round 3. If that fight is even remotely competitive and makes it to the 3rd round, McCorkle will be dead tired.

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                      • MMA_scientist
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 9857

                        #206
                        Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

                        So what might lose? Where is the flaw?

                        McCorkle has never gone to round 3 before. I figure if McCorkle wins, it will be by top control or KO. If it doesn't happen in 10 mins, it probably won't happen. But then again, they are HW's and of all teh weightclasses, HW's seem to have the most 3rd round KO's (Mir/CC, Duffee)...
                        2012: +19.33
                        2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                        • poopoo333
                          MMA *********
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 18302

                          #207
                          Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

                          2.1u on Almeida
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                          • poopoo333
                            MMA *********
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 18302

                            #208
                            Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

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                            • MMA_scientist
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 9857

                              #209
                              Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

                              Anybody know anything about Pierson or Bongfelt?
                              2012: +19.33
                              2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                              • poopoo333
                                MMA *********
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 18302

                                #210
                                Re: UFC 124: GSP vs. Koscheck II to take place in Montreal

                                Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                                So what might lose? Where is the flaw?

                                McCorkle has never gone to round 3 before. I figure if McCorkle wins, it will be by top control or KO. If it doesn't happen in 10 mins, it probably won't happen. But then again, they are HW's and of all teh weightclasses, HW's seem to have the most 3rd round KO's (Mir/CC, Duffee)...
                                I was responding to your "weak link" comment. I think that parlay will hit. The most likely prop in that parlay to hit is Miller by sub, but only because I don't know how Oliveira's sub defense is (assuming it is good), and Miller is a black belt/NCAA div 1 wrestler and Oliveira is a brown belt.

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