UFN 23/Fight for the Troops

[MMA_scientist]

i will eventually stop coming around, and you can continue with you dumb ass parlays and such.

I would be ok with that. You come in act like your opinion is all that matters, get butt hurt any time anyone disagrees with you and then proclaim your alleged status as a professional gambler, yet somehow fail to grasp such intricate concepts as "value" and "unit". Then you act like you are not mad or offended, when you clearly are. Then you inevitably start insulting eithe results or methods, neither of which you seem to undertand very well... I recall you insulting Luke because he was down at the moment, surely a seasoned pro undertands that even the greats such as yourself experience negative variance...

As for me and my methods, I can back up my claims because anyone can see every bet I have made for the last 18 months. You don't have to agree with my plays, but there is no reason to be a douchebag. But I don't think you can help it.

Bottom line you are simply incapable of having a normal discussion about a fight breakdown... and as such you are of no value to me. And since, your personality offers no added value, you can go away as far as I am concerned.

[sbjj]

LOl at you throwing up an insult laden post and then acting as if I am the one who did. LOL at you trying to lecture me on value and "unit". Anyone in here with a brain knows I am not lying, and I have had a few decent private conversations with some of the members here. I have(had) a short track record here(not to F'n bad) and an even longer one on another site(also not to bad). No way in hell you want to compare us two.

me and Luke had our BS. But if I remember right, I think i apologized for stepping out of bounds. But i also think you have me confused with someone else possibly. Because i remember bringing up that everyone has down times when that shit was brought up. I really think you get shit mixed up Scientist. and i think you really do confuse me with other posters.

And once again, where did I fram your opinion like you stated in an ealier post. Or is this just another time you accuse me of doing something with no back-up.

[poopoo333]

^^yeah with the luke situation I think Scientist is mixing sbjj and brooks85 up

[zY|]

Great thread. Would read again.

[sbjj]

^^yeah with the luke situation I think Scientist is mixing sbjj and brooks85 up

He mixes me up with just about every negative comment that is made at this site.

[Thewisemann]

I am looking at a bunch of dogs here... I am not going to bet all of them though.

I already have a small play on Wiman.

I am looking at

Guymon at +130
Beltran at +180
Hague at +210
Alves at +180

I actually feel that Melvin and McKenzie have some value too, but not going to bet those.

I feel strongly that Guymon should be favored over Johnson. I just think he is going to be too strong and better on the ground. Guymon is pretty good.

I think Beltran is going to take Barry down and pound on him or submit him. I mean, Cro Cop subbed Barry without even putting his hooks in. Barry is a whitebelt. I don't remember if Crocop knocked him down with a strike or if he took him down with a takedown. If Cro Cop can score a takedown, Beltran probably can too.

I guess I am leaning: Guymon, Beltran and Wiman. But that would be mean 2 of those guys would have to win for me to come out ahead... so I can't do all of them. I sort of wish I could take back the Wiman bet now. I didn't think the odds would be this lopsided on some of these fights.

I would bet Guyman and Hague, if I was you.

[sbjj]

I would bet Guyman and Hague, if I was you.

Those are the two i would bet also.

[poopoo333]

I think Mitrione wins this fight, but there is a chance he is a little too hyped right now. He beat Marcus Jones, Kimbo black pro wrestler in Japan, and a fat middleweight named Joey Beltran. I think Mitrione is a risky bet because he gets tagged often (well not against Kimbo), gets into slugfests, and has poor TDD. But I also think Hague is going to gas horribly and get battered after round 1.

[MMA_scientist]

LOl at you throwing up an insult laden post and then acting as if I am the one who did. LOL at you trying to lecture me on value and "unit". Anyone in here with a brain knows I am not lying, and I have had a few decent private conversations with some of the members here. I have(had) a short track record here(not to F'n bad) and an even longer one on another site(also not to bad). No way in hell you want to compare us two.

me and Luke had our BS. But if I remember right, I think i apologized for stepping out of bounds. But i also think you have me confused with someone else possibly. Because i remember bringing up that everyone has down times when that shit was brought up. I really think you get shit mixed up Scientist. and i think you really do confuse me with other posters.

And once again, where did I fram your opinion like you stated in an ealier post. Or is this just another time you accuse me of doing something with no back-up.

just stfu and stop being an insulting prick and we won't have any beef. My insults are mere retaliation for your attempted red herring (i disagree with your breakdown, so I am going to say "lol at your parlays.")

I don't confuse you with anyone, I know who you are. I was playing around with southbaysurf stuff, and whatever your beef with luke was is your business (just saying you went to the same bag of tricks "lol look at your bets"). Congratulations on winning a huge bet on BJ, but let's not get carried away about your stellar track record. Great you are doing fine, good job. But I can get all sorts of plays from all sorts of sites claiming to do all sorts of things. A forum is about a conversation. If you can't have one, then stop posting. Or at least bring the comedy.

Anyway, I don't want to bicker. You try not get butthurt when someone disagrees with you and I will try not to assign untrue evil traits to your character. We're done. Let's move on.

[sbjj]

I think Mitrione wins this fight, but there is a chance he is a little too hyped right now. He beat Marcus Jones, Kimbo black pro wrestler in Japan, and a fat middleweight named Joey Beltran. I think Mitrione is a risky bet because he gets tagged often (well not against Kimbo), gets into slugfests, and has poor TDD. But I also think Hague is going to gas horribly and get battered after round 1.

Yea, i give Mitrione the edge. But I do not see the gap in talent as wide as I see the Beltran-Barry fight. Many people think Hague beat beltran when they fought. and Hague SHOULD come into this fight in better shape. I just picture it possibly being a very close fight. i think Hague can def. take Matt down if he chooses to.

[MMA_scientist]

I would bet Guyman and Hague, if I was you.

I think I am going to go with Wiman and Guymon. Anchored with Brown and a parlay. MIght even hedge out of the Wiman bet and just do Guymon. Guymon is really the only one I fee good about.

[edman5555]

You guys are nuts to even consider betting Beltran. his takedowns are not that good, and Barry's TKD is better than you guys think. Not to mention that Barry seems to be seriously training all aspects of fighting with good training partners.

i actually think barry might be the best bet(price wise) of the night. Beltran was getting wobbled by mitrione...what do you think Barry is going to do.

Do not be surprised if Barry actually outwrestles Beltran here.

Yes

[sbjj]

just stfu and stop being an insulting prick and we won't have any beef. My insults are mere retaliation for your attempted red herring (i disagree with your breakdown, so I am going to say "lol at your parlays.")

I don't confuse you with anyone, I know who you are. I was playing around with southbaysurf stuff, and whatever your beef with luke was is your business (just saying you went to the same bag of tricks "lol look at your bets"). Congratulations on winning a huge bet on BJ, but let's not get carried away about your stellar track record. Great you are doing fine, good job. But I can get all sorts of plays from all sorts of sites claiming to do all sorts of things. A forum is about a conversation. If you can't have one, then stop posting. Or at least bring the comedy.

Anyway, I don't want to bicker. You try not get butthurt when someone disagrees with you and I will try not to assign untrue evil traits to your character. We're done. Let's move on.

LOL! You attribute postings to me that I never made, and I am the dick. Nice one. And it is not the first time you have done it. Maybe you would not get so bent if you got your shit together, and actually figured what my posts were, and what others were. And when someone points out that you were wrong, just say "my bad". no need to come back with just more bull shit.

[poopoo333]

Yea, i give Mitrione the edge. But I do not see the gap in talent as wide as I see the Beltran-Barry fight. Many people think Hague beat beltran when they fought. and Hague SHOULD come into this fight in better shape. I just picture it possibly being a very close fight. i think Hague can def. take Matt down if he chooses to.

Are you sure your not mixing up the Hague/Tucshererererereererer decision with the Hague/Beltran decision? Because the scorecards on Hague/Beltran were 30-27s and 30-26s, and I don't remember thinking that decision sucked. But I do remember thinking Hague/Tucsherererereerer was a shitty decision, and I had a bet on Tucsherererererererere

[edman5555]

Yeah, that's around where I will bet him as well. I think it's one of the best bets on the card imo, the only thing that has me worried is that EVERYBODY on other forums is saying Guillard is going to win. But then again, other forums are full of idiots.

Guillard is pretty good. This is starting to remind me of Marquartocoolypse. Everyone is betting Dunham and I seem to be the only guy that thinks Guillard might win. Don't bet it. Guillard is getting better and he has always been pretty good.