Ufc 130

[poopoo333]

After watching it without any distractions at BWW, I think Torres probably should have won too. Mighty Mouse got the TD in the 3rd and worked from the top, but Torres swept him into mount, a more dominant position, and was working for the sub for like 2 minutes.

[SPX]

I wouldn't say that Torres got "royally screwed." It was a close fight. But I do think Torres won.

You can't let yourself be controlled like that, though. I do kind of agree with the logic that if you can't get up--if you are forced to stay where you are and can't determine where the fight goes--then you are losing except in rare circumstances. But with Torres's reversals, strikes from the bottom, and sub attempts I think he did enough to win.

[Thewisemann]

Judging is attrocious

[MMA_scientist]

I agree, I had rd 2 a 10-10, I had Torres winning 1 and 3. But I knew the were givin it to Johnson.

I figured they would as well... at least the SD and Junkie agree with us. It is a serious problem. You can't even bet on who you think will win the fight, you have to bet who the judges will give it to. It is just so retarded. Torres probably hurt himself by attacking so much. Johnson wasn't doing much, had Torres just laid there, he probably would ave gotten some stand ups.

[Thewisemann]

I agree, I had rd 2 a 10-10, I had Torres winning 1 and 3. But I knew the were givin it to Johnson.

[MMA_scientist]

Just rewatched Torres/Johnson. Torres got royally screwed. He DEFINITELY won rounds 1 and 3. Round 2 was close, but he won Round 2 as well. Judging in MMA is so aweful.

[poopoo333]

Nevermind lol

[SPX]

LOL, yeah, because Roy Nelson brings in the ratings/viewers like Kimbo does.

He has a fanbase and he fought in the IFL, EliteXC and Bodog before going on TUF. You can't pretend like he was on the same level, both in terms of skills and notoriety, as guys like Justin Wren or James McSweeney, who no one had ever heard of before the show.

[poopoo333]

Who knows, but he's an ex-IFL champ, not your standard TUFfer. I figured that, like Kimbo, he had a special arrangement.

LOL, yeah, because Roy Nelson brings in the ratings/viewers like Kimbo does.

[SPX]

Who knows, but he's an ex-IFL champ, not your standard TUFfer. I figured that, like Kimbo, he had a special arrangement.

[Luke]

Wow, only $15K for Roy Nelson? I'm surprised he's working off of a standard TUF contract.

How long was his TUF contract?

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson: $250,000 (no win bonus)
def. Matt Hamill: $32,000

Frank Mir: $250,000 (includes $125,000 win bonus)
def. Roy Nelson: $15,000

LOL at the disparity between these two fight salaries, what a joke

[SPX]

Wow, only $15K for Roy Nelson? I'm surprised he's working off of a standard TUF contract.

[poopoo333]

The full payouts included:

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson: $250,000 (no win bonus)
def. Matt Hamill: $32,000

Frank Mir: $250,000 (includes $125,000 win bonus)
def. Roy Nelson: $15,000

Travis Browne: $16,000 ($8,000 win bonus)
def. Stefan Struve: $21,000

Rick Story: $34,000 ($17,000 win bonus)
def. Thiago Alves: $ 33,000

Brian Stann: $46,000 ($23,000 win bonus)
def. Jorge Santiago: $36,000

Demetrious Johnson: $12,000 ($6,000 win bonus)
def. Miguel Torres: $30,000

Tim Boetsch: $36,000 ($18,000 win bonus)
def. Kendall Grove: $28,000

Gleison Tibau: $50,000 ($25,000 win bonus)
def. Rafaello Oliveira: $10,000

Michael McDonald: $12,000 ($6,000 win bonus)
def. Chris Cariaso: $4000

Renan Barao: $10,000 ($5,000 win bonus)
def. Cole Escovedo: $6,000

Now, the usual disclaimer: The figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income. They also do not include any other "locker room" or special bonuses the UFC oftentimes pays. They also do not include portions of the pay-per-view revenue that some top-level fighters receive.

[poopoo333]

The full list includes:

• Quinton "Rampage" Jackson: Must have have left hand X-rayed, and if injured, suspended until Nov. 25, though he can be cleared by an orthopedic doctor; regardless, suspended with no contact during training until June 28
• Frank Mir: Suspended until Nov. 25 due to possible rib injuries, though he can be cleared by a doctor; regardless, suspended until June 28 with no contact until June 19
• Stefan Struve: Suspended until July 28 with no contact until July 13 for precautionary reasons
• Brian Stann: Must have have right thumb X-rayed, and if injured, suspended until Nov. 25, though he can be cleared by an orthopedic doctor; regardless, suspended until June 28 with no contact until June 19
• Jorge Santiago: Suspended until Nov. 25 due to a possible left-orbital injury, though he can be cleared early by an ENT doctor or ophthalmologist
• Rafaello Oliveira: Suspended until July 28 with no contact until July 13 for precautionary reasons
• Michael McDonald: Suspended until Nov. 25 due to a possible shoulder injury, though he can be cleared early by orthopedic doctor; regardless, suspended until July 28 with no contact until July 13 for precautionary reasons

[edman5555]

fight goes the distance