Ufc 130

[Thewisemann]

Not much I really like on this card. Grove if his line isnt too high, maybe Tibau.

[edman5555]

Barao seems good but I do remember reading the play by play on one of his fights and seeing him lose one of the rounds. Not that he stinks because of that or anything. I don't really know much about Jorge Santiago. That seems risky.

[MMA_scientist]

I am looking for the lines on Tibau, Grove, and Barao. I would like to get all 3 of them if they come in under -300. I also like Torres, Stann, and Rampage.

I already have a magic parlay going as well for 5u.

I will probably have a lot of action on this card, it is going to be one of those pivotal cards of the year for me I think.

[poopoo333]

Bets I am considering so far: Struve, Mir, Mir by decision, Thiago alves, mike mcdonald, renan barao, and kendall grove.

Same, except for Mir by decision and Thiago Alves.

[SPX]

Browne was not that impressive against Kongo at all.

Well considering that I thought Kongo was going to knock him out in round one, and instead ended up fighting a pretty close fight, I was actually somewhat impressed with Brown.

[edman5555]

I think Struve is the better all around fighter but Browne did catch Kongo quite a few times. I don't like betting fights where giant guys are throwing huge power. Anyone can get knocked out. I do like Struve as a dog though. Bets I am considering so far: Struve, Mir, Mir by decision, Thiago alves, mike mcdonald, renan barao, and kendall grove.

[poopoo333]

At first I thought Browne would probably wreck Struve in round 1, but I don't know. Browne was not that impressive against Kongo at all. If it goes to round 2 and 3 I have a feeling Struve will be able to take over. I kind of like Struve @+120. Thoughts?

[edman5555]

struve will be pretty good someday. He is pretty decent now.

[poopoo333]

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/1/Under-Construction-Skyscraper-in-Progress-32532

Stefan Struve is in no hurry.

The 23-year-old Dutchman is well aware that his career is just beginning, despite having 25 professional fights to his credit. Struve has racked up a 5-2 record since joining the UFC in 2009, his only Octagon losses coming to heavyweight contenders Junior dos Santos and Roy Nelson.

Both defeats came in the first round, both by knockout.

While some might obsess over such setbacks and plead for quick rematches, Struve speaks of the defeats casually, confidently explaining that he will get his shot at redemption -- and the heavyweight title -- in due time. According to Struve, the only fight on his mind is the one he will have against fellow prospect Travis Browne at UFC 130 on Saturday at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

“To be honest, I’m not really thinking about [avenging those losses or earning a title shot]. The only thing in my mind right now is that I have to fight Travis Browne,” Struve tells Sherdog.com. “The nice thing with my career is that I just turned 23. There’s no rush. I’m only going to get better in the coming years, so it’s not like I need to beat those guys right now. I’ve got plenty of time.”

Though the undefeated Browne did not impress in turning out a draw in his Octagon debut against Cheick Kongo at UFC 120, Struve still expects fireworks in his fight with the Hawaiian.

“He was disappointed with his performance against Kongo. The first round was OK, but [that fight] didn’t tell me much,” Struve says. “I expect him to come out and push the pace, especially in the first round. He’s got heavy hands and kicks, so I need to watch out and not get hit. But I think it’s going to be one hell of a fight, especially for the crowd.”

The tallest man in the UFC, Struve has used his 6-foot-11 frame to turn back most who have opposed him in the cage. According to Struve, however, he is still in the process of learning how to use his natural gifts to the best of his ability.

ks vs. Browne.
“The small, stocky guys might be stronger, but if you know how to use your reach and use your body in the perfect way, I think that’s a big advantage,” he says. “I’m trying my best to use my reach to its fullest, and I’m getting better at that with every single fight.

“One example is Jon Jones’ guillotines,” Struve adds. “If you look at how he locks it up and how much strength he can deliver, that’s a great example of how long arms or legs can be good on the ground. And if you look at my record, I don’t even know how many wins I have by triangle. I have a lot of submission wins. In my opinion, [ground fighting] is easier, because [I can attempt] submissions from weird angles.”

Struve has dedicated himself to fortifying his considerable natural gifts with improved standup and ground work since his most recent appearance in the Octagon netted him a first-round technical knockout victory over Sean McCorkle at UFC 124.


“I think that all of the aspects of my game have improved since my last fight. I hired [UFC pioneer] Remco Pardoel as my jiu-jitsu trainer. In my opinion, my ground game has improved a lot [between] my last couple of fights,” he says. “I have a great team and great sparring partners. I’m also training with [Dream light heavyweight champion] Gegard Mousasi’s team -- with [K-1 fighter] Daniel Ghita -- so I think I’ve improved a lot.”

Outside of improving his technique, the young heavyweight is also packing on the pounds. Although Struve admits he will need to beef up in order to contend with the division’s more powerful contenders, it comes as no surprise that the lanky prospect approaches this aspect of his training deliberately, as well.

“The last time I checked my weight, I was 262 [pounds]. We don’t want to do it too fast. After every fight, we just want to get a little bigger and a little stronger. If you do it too fast, you’re going to lose cardio and speed and agility. We don’t want that. I’m only 23 years old, and I’m going to get a lot bigger naturally,” says Struve, detailing his timeline for adding mass to his frame. “I think in two to three years, I’ll be up around 290 [pounds]. I’m adding about five to seven pounds after [every fight]. I just want to keep my body running as smoothly as possible, but I do want to get bigger and stronger. And I need to, because the guys in that division are monsters.”

[edman5555]

http://www.mmamania.com/2011/5/22/2184077/worth-the-weight-ufc-130-interview-exclusive-with-thiago-alves#storyjump

Interview with Thiago Alves. Worth reading. I am thinking about betting on him.

[poopoo333]

Yet Nelson landed several flush shots on Dos Santos during that fight.

When Carwin does this JDS is going down.






(waits for SPX to come in and freak out)

[Ludo]

Yet Nelson landed several flush shots on Dos Santos during that fight. Mir is going to start backing off when he gets cracked with a good shot, he's not going to keep pressing the action like Dos Santos did. I have no doubt that Roy can land on Mir more than he did Dos Santos because while Mir is faster than Roy he's not THAT much faster. Nelson laid Shaub out hard during the TUF Finale and Shaub is one of the fastest guys in the division right now.

[trotterz]

Frankly I think Frank wins a decision.

same here,
roy is just going to be too slow for mir.
Mir is going to outbox him to a unanimous decision. Roy's takedowns are not good enough to get mir down (even though Mir's TDD is not really good).
Roy has more power in his punches but he will have difficulty to connect on mir who's going to be more fast. Pretty similar to the dos santos match up. Mir's boxing is nowhere need the level of dos santos but better than Nelson

[edman5555]

Frankly I think Frank wins a decision.

[Ludo]

Nelson has power enough to counteract Mir's versatility striking and Nelsons wrestling is better. I see no reason Nelson can't advance position on Mir if he gets on top. He shouldn't knock Nelson out. I mean if Dos Santos couldn't put Nelson out in those first two rounds I doubt Mir is going to find the button.