UFC on Versus 4

[SPX]

Nate's wrestling is a lot better than a lot of people want to act like it is. He outwrestled Okami at several points in their fight and he totally controlled Dan Miller.

As for this roids talk, he was also noticeably smaller in the Miller fight (something I noticed immediately that he has since confirmed in interviews), so even if he was on them before he almost certainly wasn't for that fight and was still able to win an easy decision.

[SPX]

I really have no idea who wins this one. I originally leaned Story--and probably still do--but I think there are a lot of questions and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Nate win. In fact, I kind of hope he does.

[poopoo333]

Thoughts on Lentz/Oliveira?

[MMA_scientist]

I really have no idea who wins this one. I originally leaned Story--and probably still do--but I think there are a lot of questions and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Nate win. In fact, I kind of hope he does.

That is right where I am. I originally thought Story... but now I am thinking is kind of a toss up, slight edge to Story. I hope Marq wins though, Story is just another blanket. I don't like the style at all, even though it is effective. Would much rather see Marquart in the mix, even though he stands no chance against GSP.

[SPX]

I think what it comes down to is what moving to WW will mean for Nate.

Is he is more beasty than he was at MW, then he could be a real force.
If he's at the same level, then he'll just kind of hover somewhere in the top 10.
If it turns out the cut is not a good thing for him, he'll probably lose a couple and then head back up.

Sometimes we see guys switch weight classes and it's like a revelation. You get that feeling of, "Oh shit, this is where he should've been the whole time." I wonder if that's going to be the case here.

[MMA_scientist]

Nate was a big MW. He even talked about being strong for even a LHW. I really don't think the cut will do him any good personally, WW is a much tougher division overall IMO. He will need an easy path to the title to get a shot, I don't think he can get through Koscheck/Alves/Fitch.

[flyinggogoplata]

Nate's a bum at 170.

[flyinggogoplata]

Rick Story on Josh Gross Podcast

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/podcast/archive?id=6220514#

[Thewisemann]

Anyone liking Lauzon?

[Thewisemann]

Anybody know when kampmann was injured and all this shuffling took plac, just tryin to figure how short of notice Roberts is on.

[SPX]

Anyone else thinking that this card kind of sucks for betting?

[Ludo]

I think Lentz finds a way to grind one out here. He's not the kind of wrestler who gets caught in alot of subs and he'll turn this fight dirty. Oliveira has chops on the ground but I just don't see him finding much space to work with Lentz on top of him.

[poopoo333]

Anyone else thinking that this card kind of sucks for betting?

No. (not even busting your balls here)

[Thewisemann]

Anybody know when kampmann was injured and all this shuffling took plac, just tryin to figure how short of notice Roberts is on.

Come, one of you knows this

[poopoo333]

I am really hoping to get a good opening line on Brenneman. If these lines come out at work tonight and I don't feel my phone vibrate for the text alert, I am going to rageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeee