Strikeforce Dallas June 18th

[Vandelay]

Golden Quote: the difference between 5 years ago and now is about 40 pounds of whoop ass!

[Mr. IWS]

Golden Quote: the difference between 5 years ago and now is about 40 pounds of whoop ass!

War Reem!

[MMA_scientist]

thinking about adding more on Werdum. Overeem is about to get dominated.

[Mr. IWS]

Jimmy Lennon breakin out the pastels!

[Mr. IWS]

thinking about adding more on Werdum. Overeem is about to get dominated.

[edman5555]

I don't see why Overeem gets dominated. Even the pros are picking Overeem.

[MMA_scientist]

Pros are generally no better than your average random person at picking fights.

Reasonable minds can differ. But I got Werdum here. I was thinking Overeem should be favored and Werdum COULD win by weathering the storm. But now I actually think Werdum is going to win and should be the favorite. Overeem basically has to land a killer shot and put Werdum's lights out, which has only happened one time to him, despite consistely fighting the best guys for the last several years. He hasn't had an easy fight since 2005. Werdum also beat Einemo, who is Overeem's grappling coach. Overeem has fought... nobody. His best win since losing to Werdum last time is Brett Rogers. I think maybe he really is ALL hype. Apparently Werdum has been working on his wrestling a lot... I was thinking well, Werdum has to land a submission to win. Now I am thinking, well, Overeem has to land a death blow to win. Then seeing them side by side, I always forget how big Werdum is.

[Luke]

thinking about adding more on Werdum. Overeem is about to get dominated.

I think I'd be bailing instead of adding,Werdum looks to be in worse shape than in his fight with Fedor .You're not concerned he's 8 pounds heavier ?

[flyinggogoplata]

Overeem is a can crusher, nothing more.

[Mr. IWS]

Real talk, I wouldnt be suprised if Reem fades during the 2nd half of the fight and gets tapped or loses a decision. That cat hasnt fought ANYONE over the last few years.

[MMA_scientist]

I think I'd be bailing instead of adding,Werdum looks to be in worse shape than in his fight with Fedor .You're not concerned he's 8 pounds heavier ?

not really. He weighs the exact same amount he weighed when he beat Bigfoot. Bottom line, I just think Werdum is a better fighter and will find a way to get it done.

I don't expect him to just blow through him, I was favoring Overeem maybe 55/45, now I am the other way, favoring Werdum 55/45 to get that takedown before Overeem can land the shot.

[Luke]

Overeem is a can crusher, nothing more.

Well yeah ,but remember Werdum's striking is so bad he probably couldn't crush a can if he hit it with his hardest punch . . . . . so. . . . .

[edman5555]

I didn't watch the first fight but I have heard that Overeem was in WErdums guard for a long time before getting submitted. There is a good chance that Werdum is not in line for an insta sub if this goes to the ground. Frankly I think Reem will do everything he can to keep it standing. Beyond that, I don't think Overeem is that easy to take down. Werdum has a tough road if he is looking to control him or submit him...

[poopoo333]

Scientist...go big on Werdum. I dare you.

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah, Overeem has a pretty good ground game. But remember that fight was in Japan... where you can actually win a fight from your back on the cards. Overeem was shooting for the takedowns and Werdum was willingly going down. Had Werdum been on top, it probably would have been significantly different. This time, I expect Werdum to be looking for a takedown and Overeem looking to sprawl. Overeem has never shown great takedown defense in the past... but it has been a while since someone tried to take him down since he has been fighting specially designated striking only cans.