Strikeforce Dallas June 18th

[Luke]

Has it ever been done successfully with boxing?

Not to my knowledge

[Luke]

Tell us more. . .

Thats all he told me .It this guy here:

http://twitter.com/#!/johncandido

[Svino]

Why do you say that?

1) As I said above, look at our tracker...

2) When sports get to the point where they can be modeled well statistically, the casinos can use those good models and the vig takes care of the rest.

[Luke]

Why do you say that?

The lines are a lot sharper in other sports because more money is bet on them

[flyinggogoplata]

I'm not talking about limits . . . I'm talking about all sports being beatable.

No, Maybe one out of hundred gamblers are winners. Most sharps are math wizards with large databases and math models.

[Luke]

Isn't this the case with all sports, though?

No.MMA/boxing are the easiet sports to beat over time, the NFL is the hardest

[Svino]

There is a statistician already working on predictive algorithm fight outcome application for fightmetric

I doubt it's gonna work. This would be far easier to do with boxing than with MMA. Has it ever been done successfully with boxing?

[SPX]

There is a statistician already working on predictive algorithm fight outcome application for fightmetric

Tell us more. . .

[SPX]

To some extent, but I think MMA betting is intrinsically much more beatable than (say) baseball or football.

Why do you say that?

[SPX]

Not that low of limits. Major Markets like the NFL are very hard to beat straight up without betting steam or stale lines. So limits are much higher, pinny will take 2000-5000 on openers. 20k and higher on game day.

I'm not talking about limits . . . I'm talking about all sports being beatable.

[Luke]

Also with fight metric selling databases and mma becoming more popular I see math models coming in play. Lines will get way sharper almost to a point where they can't be beaten except at opening.

There is a statistician already working on predictive algorithm fight outcome application for fightmetric

[Svino]

Isn't this the case with all sports, though?

To some extent, but I think MMA betting is intrinsically much more beatable than (say) baseball or football.

[flyinggogoplata]

Isn't this the case with all sports, though?

Not that low of limits. Major Markets like the NFL are very hard to beat straight up without betting steam or stale lines. So limits are much higher, pinny will take 2000-5000 on openers. 20k and higher on game day.

[SPX]

They keep the limits low because they know their game is beatable. I mean, just look at our MMA tracker.

Isn't this the case with all sports, though?

[flyinggogoplata]

Also with fight metric selling databases and mma becoming more popular I see math models coming in play. Lines will get way sharper almost to a point where they can't be beaten except at opening.