UFC 134 Rio de Janeiro Aug 27th

[poopoo333]

I'm with you on most of that, but I really doubt that Miller wins. I'd probably take Paul Harris up to -200.

In my opinion, if Dan Miller makes it a competitive fight in round 1, he will take over in rounds 2 and 3.

[SPX]

I just feel like Miller is one of those guys who does well against mid-level competition but can't handle anything above that. Neither guy has any big wins, but I think that Palhares at least has the potential to be something approaching a contender. Miller never will be, though.

[Vandelay]

I already have 4u on Forrest Griffin

[SPX]

I'll say that while I do favor Shogun, I would not be surprised to see Forrest run away with it.

[poopoo333]

Vandelay, how much you betting on Shogun?

[SPX]

You should cum on his face while you're at it.

[Thewisemann]

I'll be on Griffin Dec

[Vandelay]

Let's see, fighting at home: check, Coming off a loss: check, forrest wrestling: awful. I think griffin can win, but it's a slim chance that basically hinges upon the fact that shogun gasses or gets injured during the fight. Ill throw enough to win 100 for sure, possibly 200

[poopoo333]

Fighting at home: oh hey Sotiropolous @ UFC 127. oh hey Dan Hardy and John Hathaway @ UFC 120. oh hey Randy Couture @ UFC 102. oh hey Sam Stout @ UFC 113. oh hey Rory MacDonald @ UFC 115.

^^ all those guys were favored to win.

Coming off a loss: So?

Forrest wrestling awful: he took Franklin down 5 times, he took Shogun down whenever he wanted and got the better of the grappling all around, and he brought Rampage down and kept him there for an entire round. I think that little bit of wrestling/takedown ability is enough to put Shogun on his back and tire him out.

I really think this fight is close to even. If Shogun doesn't KTFO Griffin early, I think Griffin will outwork him for 15 minutes on the mat and tire Shogun out.

This fight is kind of win/win for me, because as a fan I really want to see Shogun win, I just don't think he will.

[SPX]

Vandelay, how much you betting on Shogun?

Nice edit.

[SPX]

Let's see, fighting at home: check, Coming off a loss: check, forrest wrestling: awful. I think griffin can win, but it's a slim chance that basically hinges upon the fact that shogun gasses or gets injured during the fight. Ill throw enough to win 100 for sure, possibly 200

Not sure what you mean about Forrest's wrestling being "awful." His wrestling is actually pretty solid. You'll have to explain that sentiment.

[poopoo333]

Nice edit.

BOL!!!

[Vandelay]

He never took down rampage, more like rampage dropped to his back when forest had a headlock. Most of the takedown against franklin were when forest caught a leg kick, and against shogun, I believe shogun initiated most of the grappling exchanges for some reason. Forest's takedowns are about as good as mir's. This is probably his best chance to win, but he didn't employ this gameplan against anderson.

Shogun hasn't fought in his home country since his third fight. Now if the ufc helf a card in brazil every couple of months, then it wouldn't factor in much, but this is the first time ever and i believe shogun will come in focused, prepared, and with the right gameplan to defeat forest.

And shogun has never lost back to back fights.

[poopoo333]

Opened @-260/-185

[poopoo333]

3.75u on Barboza @-185