UFC 134 Rio de Janeiro Aug 27th

[SPX]

Well that does seem to be the case. I just wish I knew more about it.

I actually talked to a doctor not that long ago about concussions and brain injuries and it's apparently a very mysterious subject. Even the doctors aren't really sure exactly what happens or why.

[Ludo]

I must have misunderstood the question. I thought you were asking why fighters are more susceptible to being knocked out after that first initial big one. I have no idea what it is that actually happens in the brain during those moments. I imagine the only way to find out would be to have someone hooked up to machines as he's being pummeled into a living death in order to figure out what exactly happens in there but even then it could be inconclusive without multiple test subjects. Seems like an unethical study to perform, so I doubt we'll ever know without some kind of new benign way of determining it as technology gets better.

[poopoo333]

I really didn't think Griffin's line would get this good. I thought +180 was going to be the best line and that Griffin would be like +150 by fight time or worse.

[edman5555]

I am split on the Forrest Shogun fight.

[edman5555]

i would take forrest if i had to pick though, because of the lines

[Svino]

There is a chance that Rua could pick Forrest apart on the feet, but at these lines, I definitely like Griffin as the bet.

I know I mentioned Nedkov as a possible bet, but I was expecting a much steeper line. I stand by what I said earlier, but when I saw Cane open at only -180, I thought the value was on Cane. At this point, I think the line is pretty well set and I will probably stay away from that fight.

[AC88]

I think Forrest's standup defense is too solid to get picked apart by Shogun. Getting picked apart by Silva: yes, but by Shogun? Nah. IMO this fight is going to be based on conditioning and stand up, which IMO Griffin will have the advantage in. Shogun is not the same Shogun who popped in for his debut wrestling with Forrest. IMO this will be a striking match mixed with quick trips and takedowns from both. Forrest UD hopefully.

[poopoo333]

[Ludo]

I think Forrest's standup defense is too solid to get picked apart by Shogun. Getting picked apart by Silva: yes, but by Shogun? Nah. IMO this fight is going to be based on conditioning and stand up, which IMO Griffin will have the advantage in. Shogun is not the same Shogun who popped in for his debut wrestling with Forrest. IMO this will be a striking match mixed with quick trips and takedowns from both. Forrest UD hopefully.

Yes but by the same token Shogun is potentially worse off than last time if his knee isn't healed fully. The thing with knee surgeries is the more you have the weaker the knee actually becomes.

[poopoo333]

Yes but by the same token Shogun is potentially worse off than last time if his knee isn't healed fully. The thing with knee surgeries is the more you have the weaker the knee actually becomes.

I watched Jones/Shogun last night, and after one takedown and being controlled for a little bit he was gassed as hell and his striking was SO slow. He's been training in America and has some new S&C coach for this fight, but I don't think one camp will fix those cardio issues. I think Shogun is either going to KO Forrest early, or Forrest is gonna grind Shogun out.

I just watched the press conference....Silva looked bigger than Okami. Nog looks 50. Forrest looks way bigger than Shogun.

[MMA_scientist]

I think Shogun just has conditioning issues in general. He has gassed in every UFC fight that he had to grapple in at all. He went 5 rounds with Machida, but there was nary a clinch to be found. He gassed very quickly grappling with Forrest, Jones, and Coleman. Forrest can push the pace on him if he doesn't get knocked out.

[poopoo333]

I think Shogun just has conditioning issues in general. He has gassed in every UFC fight that he had to grapple in at all. He went 5 rounds with Machida, but there was nary a clinch to be found. He gassed very quickly grappling with Forrest, Jones, and Coleman. Forrest can push the pace on him if he doesn't get knocked out.

Yep. That is why I am pretty confident in Forrest. I am basically betting against Shogun getting an early KO.

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[MMA_scientist]

Thinking about a parlay.

Rank these in terms of most certain to win:

Paulo Thiago, Alcantara, Tavares


I am thinking about Thiago/Tavares or Thiago/Alcantara. Maybe all 3... I don't know. Thoughts?

[edman5555]

I think Paulo wins it but I don't know much about Mitchell. I know the judges gave waldburger 3 rounds against him but you never know what could happen. Yuri is on my bet list. His line turned to shit though, or course. I made a post a while ago but basically I think his opponent is kinda inexperienced and is a replacement for a replacement. I think Tavares wins it but Spencer is no pushover. I will probably end up making similar parlays though. I also will be betting Andy Silva and probably Forrest.

[poopoo333]

Silva/Schaub is -147 on 5 dimes. I am thinking about that one.