UFC 134 Rio de Janeiro Aug 27th

[edman5555]

Yeah, Okami couldn't beat Rich Franklin either. Rich is kinda like a crappy version of Silva. Damn I missed all the good lines on this one.

[edman5555]

I think this is going to be UFC 134: Ultimate parlays.

[Vandelay]

Miller is a tempting bet, but is at a grappling disadvantage and i'm not sure if he can a. keep the fight standing and b. outstrike palhares.i

[edman5555]

yeah i wont bet it. I am thinking about betting big on Andy though. Zack has made some good points. He doesn't usually come out with a breakdown so you have gotta treat this like moses coming down from the mountains with the 10 commandments.

[Vandelay]

I'll be on Okami most likely. He should know what to do to win this fight, and should have the proper gameplan. Only question is if he can implement it.





He seems to be training grappling.

[edman5555]

Andy Silva is a beast. Zak is right about Okamis opponents. A lot of his opponents have been grapplers or low tier fighters. Other than that, any mid to upper tier fight he has face has either beaten him or given him a hard time. Also take mention; Okami got some of his takedowns against Marky marquardt while they were locked up. I don't think he is great at shooting in for td's. The reason I mention that is because Anderson is the last guy you want to clinch with for a takedown. His MT clinch + knees are nasty.

[SPX]

Well Okami comes from a judo background so it makes sense that his takedowns are largely clinch based. I agree that he doesn't have a good shot and those are the best takedowns against Silva.

[edman5555]

well I am not sure clinch td's are the best against silva. I guess it all depends on how good someone is at performing the td's. Whether it be clinch or doubles or singles.

[SPX]

I don't disagree, but Hendo's takedowns are also clinch-based and he was able to get Silva down.

[edman5555]

True. I thought of that while writing my response. Good retort. Hendo is a better wrestler though. He was olympic. Greco roman is also better than judo. Judo revolves around the Gi. Greco roman doesn't. Hendo also wrestled regular wrestling in college. Overall as far as wrestling and takedowns go, I would say Hendo>Yushin. It may be fairly close though. Another thing that I think is this, Anderson silvas wrestling has probably gotten a lot better over the years. It is speculation though. The Chael fight is hard to read, Silva had a bruised rib and almost didn't fight. Chael did dominate for a long time though...

[edman5555]

I really hope andys line imrpoves though. I will probably dump on him. I want to build a bankroll again. I took out about 2k a while ago.

[SPX]

Greco roman is also better than judo. Judo revolves around the Gi. Greco roman doesn't.

Call me biased, but I don't like saying Greco is better than judo.

Yes, judo is gay for the gi, but a lot of clubs devote at least some time to no-gi judo, which is very similar to Greco, so I'd say it all depends on how you train.

Also, a significant component of Judo involves ground work, so subs come into play, whereas they don't in Greco. (Keep in mind that BJJ came out of Judo.)

[Vandelay]

Just bet on Silva inside distance if you want a good line. Doubt okami makes it to the final bell if he cant take down anderson.

[Ludo]

Speaking strictly from a clinch standpoint Greco is more effective than Judo, but if you want to know what to do after the clinch goes to the ground then Greco isn't going to help you for shit.

[poopoo333]

Prelim lines out on Bookmaker UFC-134 PRELIMINARY MATCHUPS: -$250 LIMIT
Time	# Teams Spread Total Odds
5:30 PM	2471 SPENCER FISHER PK+175 2472 THIAGO TAVARES PK-215
4:15 PM	2475 DAVID MITCHELL PK+300 2476 PAULO THIAGO PK-400
3:30 PM	2479 LUIS RAMOS PK+215 2480 ERICK SILVA PK-275
5:10 PM	2483 DAN MILLER PK+190 2484 ROUSIMAR PALHARES PK-240
3:15 PM	2487 FELIPE ARANTES PK+240 2488 YURI ALCANTRA PK-300
2:40 PM	2491 IAN LOVELAND PK-130 2492 YVES JABOUIN PKEV
2:15 PM	2495 JOHNNY EDUARDO PKEV 2496 RAPHAEL ASSUNCAO PK-130