BJ Penn Vs Nick Diaz - UFC 137

[SPX]

Dependable. . . That's a good word for it.

[sbjj]

Yes, and that's my point: The line is stupid. I expect Vera will win, and probably handily, but there's no way anyone should bet him at that line after the way he's burned bettors in the past.

Very true. That type of line should be reserved for fighters who are very DEPENDABLE. Not fighters who lose to people they should not lose to or constantly fight close fights(see Tyson Griffin).

[sbjj]

Yea, I may skip the event. Was planning on a fairly large BJ bet, but I am also having second thoughts.

[MMA_scientist]

It seems insane that at one point, not that long ago, I picked Vera to defeat Jon Jones. I will probably go to my grave with that shame on my head.

In other news, I am second guessing my BJ bet. I still think BJ will win, but I think I went too big on him... he could totally lose and I am probably going to lose my siver bet too... I could wipe out 5u really easily. Maybe I should hedge the Siver bet.

[SPX]

Yes, and that's my point: The line is stupid. I expect Vera will win, and probably handily, but there's no way anyone should bet him at that line after the way he's burned bettors in the past.

[sbjj]

I to think Vera should win. But his line is ridiculous. One of those cases where one should bet on the guy who should lose purely from a value perspective.

[MMA_scientist]

Most likely, Marshall is going to have to win a kickboxing match with Vera to win this fight. Vera, for all his faults, does have pretty solid TD defense. His issue to me is that he is like CroCop standing, he just doesn't pull the trigger very much. I think Vera will win, but I really would not be surprised to see Marshall take the fight to him and win a decision.

[poopoo333]

Who cares who he beat? What does beating those guys have to do with beating Vera? Totally different match ups

[SPX]

Aside from almost pulling it off against Minotoro what has Jason Brilz ever done in his entire career worth mentioning? Literally half of his opponents to date have been Wikipedia red names.

Well be beat Tim Boetsch. I hope we can at least agree that that is "worth mentioning" even if Boetsch isn't a top fighter.

Marshall also beat Vinny Magahlaes, which I don't consider to be a GREAT win, but still noteworthy.

[edman5555]

wrong thread but Heiron has a good shot against Askren. Line is wayy off.

[Ludo]

How about Jason Brilz?

Aside from almost pulling it off against Minotoro what has Jason Brilz ever done in his entire career worth mentioning? Literally half of his opponents to date have been Wikipedia red names.

[SPX]

...........................................

Like that moral victory in lasting so long against Cane.

How about Jason Brilz?

[Ludo]

I'm actually tempted to take Heiron at those odds. But this is the wrong thread for that.

[poopoo333]

wish i woulda caught the askren opener. Hieron's chin is pretty weak, hes not really a power puncher, and i doubt he can stuff askrens takedowns enough to win a decision. Can always hedge out if jorgensen and vera win too.

Yeah, Askren is the riskiest one in that parlay...but I still like it.

[Vandelay]

wish i woulda caught the askren opener. Hieron's chin is pretty weak, hes not really a power puncher, and i doubt he can stuff askrens takedowns enough to win a decision. Can always hedge out if jorgensen and vera win too.