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  • Ludo
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 4931

    I actually have 3.9u on Shogun currently because the last outing saw Hendo buckled and put on the ropes by punches from Fedor. In My opinion Shogun hits every bit as hard and he won't fall prey to that kind of reverse if he has Hendo scrambling after being dropped by strikes. Shogun may just be able to be the first guy to TKO Hendo.
    2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
    Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
    Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
    Ludo's Locks Parlay Project: +1.4u

    2012: +20.311u

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    • zY|
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 8385

      Shogun will also probably be able to put Hendo on his back if he wants.
      Triple-six killers in this motherfucker runnin shit

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      • Ludo
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 4931

        Originally posted by Vandelay
        is the shogun fight 5 rds?
        It would have to be since it's the main event.
        2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
        Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
        Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
        Ludo's Locks Parlay Project: +1.4u

        2012: +20.311u

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        • SPX
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 23875

          Originally posted by edman5555
          Tough call. Hendo is enticing at +120 though. He has the wrestling but like you said he never uses it. Who knows if he will against shogun.
          He did use his wrestling against Feijao, so if he feels it's smart to do so, I don't think it's out of the question that he will in this fight, too.
          I heart cock

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          • Ludo
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 4931

            Originally posted by SPX
            He did use his wrestling against Feijao, so if he feels it's smart to do so, I don't think it's out of the question that he will in this fight, too.
            Let's not forget that Hendo's brand of wrestling isn't even close to being the same as what Colemans was. Coleman was strictly a takedown guy with top control. He was all about the shot and advancing position to deliver ground and pound while avoiding submissions. Hendo hasn't really ever been very interested in spending large portions of time on the ground except maybe the Vitor fight. I do think he'll try to use it at times but he's not going to be looking to take Rua down too much given the submission threat so much as he will be trying to slow things down and control the aggression of Shogun, alot like he was doing with Fedor.
            2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
            Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
            Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
            Ludo's Locks Parlay Project: +1.4u

            2012: +20.311u

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            • Thewisemann
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 1989

              Anybody wants to bet Lawlor, Faber, Shogun or Story PM me. I like the odds on Bowles as I only give Faber a slight edge, and at + odds Kampmann is a good bet, i think he has a slight edge over Story. Hendo is gonna kick Shoguns ass and Weidman may just dominate Lawlor.

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              • Ludo
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 4931

                Originally posted by Thewisemann
                Anybody wants to bet Lawlor, Faber, Shogun or Story PM me. I like the odds on Bowles as I only give Faber a slight edge, and at + odds Kampmann is a good bet, i think he has a slight edge over Story. Hendo is gonna kick Shoguns ass and Weidman may just dominate Lawlor.
                You got your own book open now?
                2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
                Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
                Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
                Ludo's Locks Parlay Project: +1.4u

                2012: +20.311u

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                • edman5555
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 6628

                  I disagree about shogun having much of a chance to outwrestle hendo..and hendo can reverse shogun. That is using wrestling. I think shogun might be able to sub hendo on the ground though. Standing shogun should have the advantage.
                  1 unit = 300 $

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                  • Vandelay
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1934

                    magic prop parlay should be back for this card. not hendo, le, story, bowles, kingsbu, and bader by sub. Mayb leave story out. could always add a bellator fight into this one.

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                    • zY|
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 8385

                      Originally posted by edman5555
                      I disagree about shogun having much of a chance to outwrestle hendo..and hendo can reverse shogun. That is using wrestling. I think shogun might be able to sub hendo on the ground though. Standing shogun should have the advantage.
                      Outwrestle? Certainly not. But don't think Shogun can't take him down. Shogun has taken down everybody he's fought except Machida and Jones. Hendo gets taken down by just about everyone because he overextends himself on punches and his defensive wrestling is quite poor. He was taken down by Shields basically every time he tried. He was also taken down by Shogun's own brother Ninja (LOL), Murilo Bustamante, and other guys he shouldn't be taken down by. He was also slammed a few times by the silverback Paul Harris.
                      Triple-six killers in this motherfucker runnin shit

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                      • zY|
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 8385

                        Nvm. Shogun is getting KOd by a geriatric and it's all Luke's fault.
                        Triple-six killers in this motherfucker runnin shit

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                        • edman5555
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 6628

                          Yeah I guess your right. I thought you meant that Hendo couldn't outwrestle Shogun. I think he can. That said, Shogun could land some TD's on Hendo. Anything is possible, but the clear wrestling edge goes to Hendo.
                          1 unit = 300 $

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                          • MMA_scientist
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 9857

                            Originally posted by Vandelay
                            magic prop parlay should be back for this card. not hendo, le, story, bowles, kingsbu, and bader by sub. Mayb leave story out. could always add a bellator fight into this one.
                            Yep, should be able to piece something together for this card. Magic Parlay has been on sabbatical, though the 2011 parlay rolls on...
                            2012: +19.33
                            2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                            • poopoo333
                              MMA *********
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 18302

                              Anybody think Hendo/Shogun can go all 5? It's +250

                              Kingsbury/Bonnar goes distance is @-165..I like that.

                              Silva/Le doesn't go distance -280....anybody like that? Might parlay that with something..possibly Weidman or Bader.

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                              • Vandelay
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 1934

                                I do like the kingsbu distance line

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