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  • MMA_scientist
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 9857

    Dominick Cruz (No. 1 BW, No. 9 PFP) vs. Demetrious Johnson (No. 6 BW)

    Charlie Brenneman vs. Anthony Johnson
    Stefan Struve vs. Pat Barry
    Yves Edwards vs. Rafaello Oliveira
    Shane Roller vs. T.J. Grant
    Matt Wiman vs. Mac Danzig
    Paul Sass vs. Michael Johnson
    Jeff Hougland vs. Mike Easton
    Aaron Rosa vs. TBA
    Josh Neer vs. Keith Wisniewski
    Walel Watson vs. Joseph Sandoval


    Anything stand out? I like Wiman at close to even odds. I would bet Brenneman at even or +. Johnson should be able to beat Sassangle by forcing a fight on the feet and staying out of his guard. Basically these are all close fights IMO. Barry/Struve is the only one that seems obvious to me (is that still on? seems like i recall an injury or something). I am going to put something on MM, just because of the line being so stupid.
    Last edited by MMA_scientist; 09-26-2011, 02:36 PM.
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    • poopoo333
      MMA *********
      • Jan 2010
      • 18302

      I kinda like TBA over Aaron Rosa.

      Also liking Brenneman, Roller, and Michael Johnson.

      Maybe Wiman, Edwards (can he force a stand up fight like Winner did?), and Hougland.

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      • SPX
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 23875

        Originally posted by MMA_scientist
        I am going to put something on MM, just because of the line being so stupid.
        I'm not so sure it is stupid.

        Don't you think Cruz beats him at least 8 out of 10 times?

        I imagine he beats him 10 out of 10 times. Just seems like MM is one step behind in every area. Maybe MM wins 1 in 15 or 20 by catching a sub or landing a punch, but that's it.
        I heart cock

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        • sbjj
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 1418

          Originally posted by SPX
          I'm not so sure it is stupid.

          Don't you think Cruz beats him at least 8 out of 10 times?

          I imagine he beats him 10 out of 10 times. Just seems like MM is one step behind in every area. Maybe MM wins 1 in 15 or 20 by catching a sub or landing a punch, but that's it.
          I actually agree here. To me, it is like the Rampage-Jones and KOS-Hughes lines. People thought those lines were stupid. But i kept saying to myself, out of 10 fights, does Page beat Jones 2 or 3 times. No, the number I came up with was 0.

          i think Cruz is just that much better than DJ.

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          • sbjj
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 1418

            I think Yves could easily lose.

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            • Thewisemann
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 1989

              I would bet Cruz at the current line. I'm waiting to see the Dec or -3.5 odds before I pull the trigger.

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              • Luke
                10 year vet
                • Oct 2006
                • 30060

                Originally posted by poopoo333
                I kinda like TBA over Aaron Rosa.

                .
                I'm with poopoo
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                • MMA_scientist
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 9857

                  I just don't see Cruz as that dominant. He lost 1 or 2 rounds to Faber. He got a split decision over Benevidez in the 2nd fight. He did dominate Jorgenson and Bowles...

                  Maybe I am not giving him enough credit, but I think he wins his rounds by volume and 1 event in that round can change the outcome (a good takedown or solid punch). I think he will get figured out soon, maybe not by Johnson though. I mean, I favor Cruz obviously, but I think MM can hang close enough with him to make it competitive. But yeah, he is not really as good as Cruz in any area ecxept maybe on the mat grappling (which we are pretty unlikely to see).
                  2012: +19.33
                  2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                  • Luke
                    10 year vet
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 30060

                    STEFAN STRUVE+135
                    PAT BARRY-165


                    CHARLIE BRENNEMAN+165
                    ANTHONY JOHNSON-205


                    MAC DANZIG +135
                    MATT WIMAN -165



                    edit up now
                    Last edited by Luke; 09-26-2011, 08:20 PM.
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                    • poopoo333
                      MMA *********
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 18302

                      Took Brenneman at +175...will add more if he gets +200

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                      • SPX
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 23875

                        5u on Cruz
                        .5u on Brenneman

                        Barry's and Wiman's lines are both a little high for me.
                        I heart cock

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                        • poopoo333
                          MMA *********
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 18302

                          I don't get the Wiman line. It was pretty much a pick 'em for UFC 115. Wiman got taken down pretty quickly in that fight, locked up a guillotine and got into a decent position but the choke wasn't even in. Danzig was fine. Then Danzig KTFOs Joe Stevenson while Wiman goes 1-1 in that time frame. I am basically saying neither of their games have seemed to change at all and am not sure why the line isn't close to even again.

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                          • Vandelay
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1934

                            My line guess wasnt to bad huh?

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                            • SPX
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 23875

                              Originally posted by poopoo333
                              I don't get the Wiman line. It was pretty much a pick 'em for UFC 115. Wiman got taken down pretty quickly in that fight, locked up a guillotine and got into a decent position but the choke wasn't even in. Danzig was fine. Then Danzig KTFOs Joe Stevenson while Wiman goes 1-1 in that time frame. I am basically saying neither of their games have seemed to change at all and am not sure why the line isn't close to even again.
                              I agree. He'll probably win but I don't like the line. The highest I'd probably take him is -130.
                              I heart cock

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                              • poopoo333
                                MMA *********
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 18302

                                Originally posted by Vandelay
                                My line guess wasnt to bad huh?
                                Naw. I honestly planned to bet Brenneman up to -170...that is why I am thinking about putting a decent sized bet on him. But the size difference is making me puss out

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