UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

[zY|]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Speaking of bad breakdowns, SD finally got rid of Rios. End of an era.

Yeah but did you see the breakdown for 121? It was even worse. At least Rios can make a cohesive argument, even if he's consistently wrong. Jason Probst was making these awful 2 + 2 = 9 arguments.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

It really was one of the worst fight breakdowns I have ever read. But he was not alone. Some of the Bloody Elbow guys were making the same points. But like Scientists said, it was the fact that he just gave Cain NO credit at all. he really came across as just a fan of one guy, or maybe a non fan of the other.

Maybe he had a big bet on Nog when cain beat him, maybe he just has a beef with Cain. or just really loves Lesnar. But something really seemed to be clouding his judgement.

Definitely clouded by something. When the only chance you give the other fighter to win is a 'bad referee stoppage', you know something is up. I don't mean to keep ragging on him, as it is what it is, but if you read through that 2p2 thread he kept posting and getting even more illogical.

[Ludo]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Thats fucked up if the only chance anyone gave Cain was by bad referee stoppage. I Myself thought Lesnar would win but I also thought it would be a close fight that dragged into the later rounds and might even result in decision. Cain is alot better than I gave him credit for though, his striking packs alot of power and his chin seems to be really solid right now. At one point in one of those wild exchanges I saw Lesnar throw a wild right that tagged Cain square on the chin and it never even phased him. Cain vs Junior is going to be a great fight.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

[quote=zY|]

Speaking of bad breakdowns, SD finally got rid of Rios. End of an era.

Yeah but did you see the breakdown for 121? It was even worse. At least Rios can make a cohesive argument, even if he's consistently wrong. Jason Probst was making these awful 2 + 2 = 9 arguments.[/quote:1v7ki0uk]
I read it, I didn't realize it was a different guy.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

[quote=MMA_scientist][quote="zY|":2ykihrql]

Speaking of bad breakdowns, SD finally got rid of Rios. End of an era.

Yeah but did you see the breakdown for 121? It was even worse. At least Rios can make a cohesive argument, even if he's consistently wrong. Jason Probst was making these awful 2 + 2 = 9 arguments.[/quote:2ykihrql]
I read it, I didn't realize it was a different guy.[/quote:2ykihrql]

I realized when I didn't have to get my thesaurus out.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Definitely clouded by something. When the only chance you give the other fighter to win is a 'bad referee stoppage', you know something is up. I don't mean to keep ragging on him, as it is what it is, but if you read through that 2p2 thread he kept posting and getting even more illogical.

Yeah, I don't care he picked Brock... a lot of guys thought Brock would win and I can understand why. We all call fights wrong sometimes. BUt he was just making ridiculous statements and what is worse is that much of it was false information (specifically about Brock's wrestling accumen- Brock was a Juco transfer just like Cain, not a 4x AA like he claimed).

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Cain has already dropped from -220 to -250. That really surprises me (though not really). I was going to stay away, but if the crazies get so pumped up because Cain just fought and blow that line up, I am going to end up on JDS. I will for sure take him @ +200

[zY|]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

Cain has already dropped from -220 to -250. That really surprises me (though not really). I was going to stay away, but if the crazies get so pumped up because Cain just fought and blow that line up, I am going to end up on JDS. I will for sure take him @ +200

He actually opened at -185, even.

I imagine it's just another low-limit, quick-moving line for a non-scheduled fight put up solely to gauge perception. People are very high on Cain obviously.

[Svino]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

I give Cain at least 70%. I wonder if the line will get better as the impression of Cain's mauling of Lesnar fades, or if it will get even worse.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

I think I will just take the "fight does not go the distance" prop haha

[zY|]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

I think I will just take the "fight does not go the distance" prop haha

I dunno. If any fighter can last 5 rounds with Cain, it's JDS. They're both super tough and durable.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

1u on JDS @ +190

And I'm very happy with that bet. Good God, I hope I don't have to eat any crow on this one.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

That seems like a bet where JDS "has a shot". I'm not making bets like that anymore. I'm tightening my game up. How can you bet JDS after what you just saw Cain do to Brock? We have no idea what JDS wrestling is like. He has looked great but the guys he's been fighting have either been good matchups for him or they aren't that stellar..Look whats happened to Gabe Gonzaga, Cro cop, Yvel, Struve...he beat Werdum, but Werdum isn't anything like Cain. He hasn't beat anyone close to Cains fighting style and he will def be getting taken down. Crazy bet IMO.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 121 Lesnar vs Velasquez

O ye of little faith. . .

While he obviously has not faced another "wrestler" like Cain, Gonzaga, Werdum, and Nelson are all grapplers and JDS put two of them in a coffin and soundly defeated the other over the course of three rounds.

I don't have any fucking idea who's going to win, but to say taking JDS at +190 is a "crazy bet" is itself crazy, I believe. I'll put it this way: I feel about JDS the same way zY has apparently felt about Cain: He's a special fighter who is going to do some amazing things. And that includes beating Cain's ass. I hope.