UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

[SPX]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

When I read the part about putting more padding in the cloves, I wanted to rape a mexican immigrant.

LOLLLLLLLLL!

[SPX]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

That sucks though, considering he got ripped off.

It was close. I'd need to watch it again to really speak intelligently, but I remember thinking it could go either way. Seems I recall Ludwig winning the stand up in the second, and then Nick gets a takedown, which he doesn't do much with but stays on top for about a minute and half.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

That sucks though, considering he got ripped off.

It was close. I'd need to watch it again to really speak intelligently, but I remember thinking it could go either way. Seems I recall Ludwig winning the stand up in the second, and then Nick gets a takedown, which he doesn't do much with but stays on top for about a minute and half.

Yeah I'm not gonna complain too much. Nick was about to have a heart attack in the 3rd round. At the time I thought he clearly won the first 2 rounds though.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

^^ Well, he also lost 2 prior fights, and only had 3 fights before coming to the UFC.

From what I have read, he was a lot more interested in partying than training... he needs more time, I think that is a fair cut. He lost 3 straight, was green anyway, and isn't ready for the big time.

referee standups are bullshit. They get the standup between rounds, that it is more than enough (though if I had it my way, there would bejust one long round, and the fight would be scored in its totality).

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Yeah I'm not gonna complain too much. Nick was about to have a heart attack in the 3rd round. At the time I thought he clearly won the first 2 rounds though.

Sort of proves the rumor about him not wanting to train very hard. With a build like that, you wouldn't think he would be gassing... but he gasses in every fight.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Sort of proves the rumor about him not wanting to train very hard. With a build like that, you wouldn't think he would be gassing... but he gasses in every fight.

I had not heard that rumor. Interesting.

His cardio held up better than his opponent's in the Riddle fight.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Yeah, he is built like a marathon runner though, he has a built in cardio edge. Him gassing probably means he is extra lazy.

[zY|]

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[quote=MMA_scientist]

Yeah I'm not gonna complain too much. Nick was about to have a heart attack in the 3rd round. At the time I thought he clearly won the first 2 rounds though.

Sort of proves the rumor about him not wanting to train very hard. With a build like that, you wouldn't think he would be gassing... but he gasses in every fight.[/quote:2n6ygvna]

Yeah.

Fuck him.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

"It’s a dog-eat-dog world, there’s so many good guys out there, you’re literally fighting for your UFC life every time you fight."

"It’s no different than any other professional sports organization, it’s exactly the way it works. You want to stay at the top of the food chain, you deal with it. If you don’t, you won’t. You know how many guys get cut by the NFL and Major League Baseball every day? It’s crazy, staggering. Same thing here, no difference."

"This isn’t the f*cking Ultimate Staring Competition, it’s the Ultimate Fighting Championship."

"Listen, these are the big leagues, no different than Major League Baseball, no different than the NFL, you perform or you go away."

-Dana Fucking White

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Those sports don't cut players because they have a boring performance. You know what is boring? Dominant pitching. Dominant defenses in the NFL. They don't get cut, they get a raise.

UFC is just taking one more step towards "sports entertainment." WWE. Roller Derby. Harlem Globetrotters. UFC.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

UFC is just taking one more step towards "sports entertainment." WWE. Roller Derby. Harlem Globetrotters. UFC.

To be fair, you can't take something with a pre-determined, scripted outcome and put it in the category of something that features actual competition, regardless of whether the rules or org owners encourage a certain type of performance.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Does anybody bitch in football when the team with a lead does nothing but run the ball in the 4th quarter trying to run out the clock?

[SPX]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

Does anybody bitch in football when the team with a lead does nothing but run the ball in the 4th quarter trying to run out the clock?

I understand the point and for the most part I agree.

Football and fighting are not good direct comparisons, though. In MMA there is a a relatively vast difference in styles between fighters and different fights. Football games generally all look the same though, other then the occasional great play.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

^^^^^ no one bitches in boxing when a fighter has a huge lead and doesnt take chances

[Luke]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

UFC is just taking one more step towards "sports entertainment." WWE. Roller Derby. Harlem Globetrotters. UFC.

I agree