UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

[SPX]

Re: UFC 123 - Machida/Rampage

^^^^^ no one bitches in boxing when a fighter has a huge lead and doesnt take chances

They don't?

[Luke]

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Football games generally all look the same though, other then the occasional great play.

You must not watch much football because teams runs many different defenses and offenses in football.

Go watch a Hawaii game then go watch a Navy game and tell me they are the same.

Football games are just as different as MMA fights.

That would be like saying all MMA fights are the same.Just say:

two fighters will come out ,throw some punches ,a few kicks, tie up and then roll around on the floor for a while the end

[Luke]

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^^^^^ no one bitches in boxing when a fighter has a huge lead and doesnt take chances

They don't?

Not that I ever remember . In fact in boxing when you are way ahead on the cards its considered stupid to engage in the last few rounds. You'll often hear announcers say something like :"why is he trading shots with him ?" or "he should just stay away because he knows the other guy needs a KO"
Things like that. This is very common in boxing

[SPX]

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^^^ You could say the same about basketball, which I know more about, and I have no problem saying that different fights have a lot more variation in style than different basketball games.

A Sherk-in-wrestlemode fight looks a lot more different from anything with Anthony Pettis in it than any football or basketball game compared to other football or basketball games.

[SPX]

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Not that I ever remember . In fact in boxing when you are way ahead on the cards its considered stupid to engage in the last few rounds. You'll often hear announcers say something like :"why is he trading shots with him ?" or "he should just stay away because he knows the other guy needs a KO"
Things like that. This is very common in boxing

Well boxing fans for damn sure complain about boring boxers.

[Luke]

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Well boxing fans for damn sure complain about boring boxers.

Mayweather is a boring fighter and I expect his fights to be boring but he's one of the fighters I most like to watch because of the way he fights.

Sure I'll say a fight is boring once in a while but its part of the sport. I dont expect someone up 11-0 to go try to KO someone in the 12th so its not boring . I also dont think someone should be cut for 1 boring fight.

Boring fights happen big deal .All fights cant be exciting and thats what Dana is trying to make happen.The only thing he's going to do is ruin the sport. You can either love MMA and take the boring fights or be an action junkie and let Dana ruin the sport

[sbjj]

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Lentz better hop he keeps winning. That dude loses 1 fight and he is gone.

[SPX]

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I'm not disagreeing. I'm just saying that we have to call it what it is.

You can't go compare the WWE to Rollerderby. The WWE is a scripted show. Rollerderby is a sport, even if the rules and structure of the sport are geared toward producing something that is exciting and entertaining.

You know that I don't think Harris should've been cut. But I also don't have a problem with introducing at least some elements to the sport that keep us from having Royce/Ken II.

[MMA_scientist]

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^ I have never actually seen roller derby, I thought it was scripted.

But that is even better, UFC = RollerDerby.

I am fine with the occasional Royce/Ken II. It won't be every fight, and the fights are only 15 minutes. They get standups between rounds. It is enough. Trying to manipulate the sport by cutting fighters that don't fight a certain way just makes it less legitimate.

The more the UFC does shit like this, the more I want to watch boxing instead. BUt then I remember that boxing politics are horrible too, just in a different way.

[zY|]

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But I also don't have a problem with introducing at least some elements to the sport that keep us from having Royce/Ken II.

They already did. They're called rounds.

I'm not against changing things, but just about every idea I see thrown out is either counterproductive or just plain shitty.

[zY|]

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The more the UFC does shit like this, the more I want to watch boxing instead. BUt then I remember that boxing politics are horrible too, just in a different way.

That and there is no BJJ in boxing.

I agree though. Shit like this does make me want to reconsider following this crap so closely.

[SPX]

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Roller derby has a lot of "sports entertainment" elements. The skaters usually come up with a colorful names like "Adolf Hits Her" or "Smashlee Simpson" and they'll develop a character that they'll step into during matches, and there are other elements as well to keep the crowd involved and entertained, but the bouts are real and they play to win.

[SPX]

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They already did. They're called rounds.

I'm not against changing things, but just about every idea I see thrown out is either counterproductive or just plain shitty.

I think it's fine the way it is.

Unless they want to take the fence off and put a gator tank around the octagon.

[sbjj]

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Am I the only one who kinda cares less about this(probably). Harris can go to Strikeforce and prove himself there. It is not like the guy was really all that great. In all honesty, UFC should be cutting MANY more fighters. Let some of the new blood come in there and get a shot. They can not employ every fighter out there.

[Luke]

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Weird I also thought roller derby was scripted though I've never watched it