UFC 125

[SPX]

Don't get all sentimental. He's not UFC quality and that's just the way it is. If he doesn't win in the first minute he's going to lose.

I don't care. I want him to win.

[zY|]

I don't care. I want him to win.

I know but you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

[SPX]

I know but you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

Oh, almost definitely.

[edman5555]

I added .5u Brandon Vera and .5 Brandon Vera to win a dec.

[poopoo333]

Every underdog on this card is live imo

[MMA_scientist]

Every underdog on this card is live imo

Agreed. There is not one fight that I would be surprised in the least if the dog won.

I am probably going to put something on Stann.

[edman5555]

I am feeling you on the Stann bet. He can prob outpoint Leben. I think he might be a better wrestler but I haven't really seen that myself. I just get that from what I have read. Also, he looks to be much bigger. I would take him straight and maybe by decision.

[Mr. IWS]

I still like Leben in that one, but No play for me now. two many variables with Leben coming into this one (weight cut, dui, hes a fuckin nut ball).

[poopoo333]

I am feeling you on the Stann bet. He can prob outpoint Leben. I think he might be a better wrestler but I haven't really seen that myself. I just get that from what I have read. Also, he looks to be much bigger. I would take him straight and maybe by decision.

Stann is not a better wrestler, unless he has drastically improved since the Massenzio fight. Grappling has always been Stann's weak point, but it looked to be improved in the Massenzio fight (he won by triangle). I think this fight plays out on the feet and in the clinch (unless Leben is easily able to take Stann down).

I still like Leben in that one, but No play for me now. two many variables with Leben coming into this one (weight cut, dui, hes a fuckin nut ball).

I wouldn't worry much about the weight cut tbh, it is probably nothing new for him. Stann has a big cut as well, he is about 210.

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah I think Leben can win. But the thing that Leben does well, Stann also does just as well (bang). I think Leben will be teh better wrestler though, and he probably has a better submission game off his back. That triangle win over Massenzio... Massenzio was half dead with fatigue. It was really similar to Leben's triangle over Akiyama.

I think Stann will be in better shape and will be more disciplined in the striking. Then I saw hom much bigger he was at the weigh in... I don't know that Leben is going to be able to press him against the cage. Also Stann is going to have some reach. Also, his chin holds up. Then I heard that Stann asked for the fight... that doesn't mean anything really (Grove asked for Maia too), but it probably means he has confidence that there is a weakness he can exploit.

anyway, I am going to put something small there, maybe .5u

[poopoo333]

Pros who picked Maynard: 25
Pros who picked Edgar: 22
Pros who could not decide: 1

[SPX]

Ya'll got me scared about my Leben bet now.

[MMA_scientist]

Ya'll got me scared about my Leben bet now.

Well you guys scared me out of most of my McKee bet.

Before you ever placed the Leben bet though, I recall several people saying they had Stann in that one. At the end of the day, you have to trust your own breakdown over everyone else's.

But you are a Leben fan if I recall. I am the opposite, I dislike Leben's personality and I dislike his fighting style. I don't think he is very good and I never have. So I might be under estimating his chances...

[poopoo333]

I think Leben may just might be getting a little extra credit right now. Simpson was winning until Leben started to catch him (Simpson showed poor striking defense against Lawlor), and Akiyama was beating Leben until he went into cardiac arrest. Akiyama was so gassed he couldn't even give an interview 5 minutes after the fight to Joe Rogan.

[edman5555]

Yeah your a hundred percent right about the Akiyama win but his Simpson win was pretty solid. He showed great takedown defense in that one. You've gotta acknowledge that. Aarons striking sucks though, and Leben hits like a ton of bricks. I think Leben probably is better now than he used to be because he always talks about the "new Leben". Then again, he just got a DUI. Long story short, Leben is a brawler that I think Stann might be able to outpoint. Who knows though, Leben can drop a guy with one punch and he can't be killed.