UFN 23/Fight for the Troops

[MMA_scientist]

What was your image of me?

inb4 Luke goes apeshit on all this OT stuff in this thread.

a cross between this:



and this:

[SPX]

What the fuck?

[MMA_scientist]

A couple of reasons.

One is simply pragmatic and comes down to being able to deal with bigger dudes if a fight breaks out. At 5'7"ish, I am already at a height disadvantage. But if I can get up to a solid 180 then I'd actually be heavier than a lot of dudes, and for the guys who are like 200 but unskilled I imagine my training (as minimal as it has been) should be able to make up for the extra 20 lbs.

I never understood the obsession with self defense. I am a grown ass man, I don't get into fights. A lot of guys I train with say they do it for self defense... that is a lot of time and effort to train for something that is probably never going to happen. Then if it did, there is at least a 50% you would be ok anyway... seems like the insurance is out of proportion to the actual risk. In fact, I would argue that in my life there is probably less than a 2% chance that I will get into fight. But since I train all the time, there is probably a 50% chance that someone will attack me at the gym (actually it has happened several times though nothing I would consider major). The solution creates the problem... I know that has nothing to do with you, just thought i'd share.

The other reason is that I've always been semi-obsessed with bodybuilders. Not so much the HUGE roided out motherfuckers like Ronnie Coleman, but the older generation of dudes like in Pumping Iron and guys like Van Damme back in the day. I think it's awesome when someone basically crafts himself like a sculpture.

If you want to see my ideal physique for myself, considering my frame and height, go watch Satoru Kitaoka in his fight with Clay French. Kitaoka looked awesome.

Is there anything you want to share with us?

I know what you mean, and I guess I can understand why some guys get into it. But I am sort of the opposite... I am about function, I don't really care about vanity. Looking good is a nice bonus I guess. Bodybuilding just always seemed incredibly gay to me.

[poopoo333]

Bodybuilding is incredibly gay. It takes hard work with the training, dieting, and all that stuff, but who the fuck wants to get on stage in a banana hammock and flex?

[SPX]

I never understood the obsession with self defense. I am a grown ass man, I don't get into fights. A lot of guys I train with say they do it for self defense... that is a lot of time and effort to train for something that is probably never going to happen. Then if it did, there is at least a 50% you would be ok anyway... seems like the insurance is out of proportion to the actual risk. In fact, I would argue that in my life there is probably less than a 2% chance that I will get into fight. But since I train all the time, there is probably a 50% chance that someone will attack me at the gym (actually it has happened several times though nothing I would consider major). The solution creates the problem... I know that has nothing to do with you, just thought i'd share.

I agree that it's likely to not happen. I haven't been in any sort of real fight since I was in 9th grade. But shit can happen, especially in bars and other places where alcohol is involved, and I do tend to find myself in such places from time to time.

There's probably also an ego thing involved. Even if I never have to bust out the ninja skills, I want to know that I CAN kick your ass if I have to . . . or if I wanted to . . . or if for whatever other reason it needed to happen. Not only is there some satisfaction in that realization alone, but it also makes life in general more peaceful. I've been in situations with some big motherfucker where he started to get pissed and crazy, and I had to be like, "Okay, I should defuse this situation." I mean, if I want to be a man of peace, that's fine. But I don't want it to be have to be my only option.

Is there anything you want to share with us?

I know what you mean, and I guess I can understand why some guys get into it. But I am sort of the opposite... I am about function, I don't really care about vanity. Looking good is a nice bonus I guess. Bodybuilding just always seemed incredibly gay to me.

I think it's awesome. I can watch Pumping Iron (which is just a great film anyway) and check these dudes out posing, or spend an hour looking up bodybuilding pics, and think to myself, "Ohh, what full pecs!" or "Wow, awesome fucking triceps! Look how they pop!" and I don't feel gay at all.

[MMA_scientist]

Bodybuilding is incredibly gay. It takes hard work with the training, dieting, and all that stuff, but who the fuck wants to get on stage in a banana hammock and flex?

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I cannot even fathom what goes through these guys minds. I want to work out a lot, then get al tanned and oiled up and then flex. Just the amount of time you would have to spend practicing your poses in front of a mirror is off-putting. It is queer and the whole thing is just incredibly vain. That guy won? But his glut to tri ratio is so off!

I am totally non-metro though. I think it is pretty damn gay when guys go to a tanning bed too. Like, if you tan, you are pretty much out as a potential friend for me, because it just reveals so much about you. I judge a fool fast and dirty.

[SPX]

Bodybuilding is incredibly gay. It takes hard work with the training, dieting, and all that stuff, but who the fuck wants to get on stage in a banana hammock and flex?

I don't have a problem with bodybuilding as a sport, but you don't have to compete to be into bodybuilding. It can also be about just looking good for yourself, or for the ladies at the beach.

I don't have any intentions of competing, but I want the body, and I respect the shit out of anyone who has the dedication to reach their fullest potential.

[poopoo333]

Like look at this guy. He is huge, isn't fat, and just lifts heavy things. He doesn't have to get oiled up and shit.

[SPX]

Just the amount of time you would have to spend practicing your poses in front of a mirror is off-putting.

Dude, I do this shit A LOT. A few times a day at least, especially if I've been drinking.

In fact, when I leave here, I'm heading to the gym for bicep/tricep day and as soon as I'm done you better believe that the first thing I'm going to do is head to the locker room where I'll find a mirror and get my pose on with my pumped up, blood-filled muscles.

BTW, I have a friend who also desires to have the physique of his dreams, and growing up we were both big Van Damme fans. Then as Van Damme got older he stopped taking his shirt off in most of his movies. This really pissed us off. True story.

[SPX]

Like look at this guy. He is huge, isn't fat, and just lifts heavy things. He doesn't have to get oiled up and shit.

That dude needs to shave his chest and he also has one of those Chuck Liddell guts.

I'm more about this:

[poopoo333]

^^god damnit SPX. god damnit. That's all I can say.

[MMA_scientist]

I think it's awesome. I can watch Pumping Iron (which is just a great film anyway) and check these dudes out posing, or spend an hour looking up bodybuilding pics, and think to myself, "Ohh, what full pecs!" or "Wow, awesome fucking triceps! Look how they pop!" and I don't feel gay at all.

I don't even know what to say.

As for the self confidence thing, I get that. I can get behind that a lot more than the "just in case" rationale. I am a pretty peaceful guy, I probably wouldn't fight even if confronted... but I do like knowing that if I want to, I can. I tend to overestimate my own ability too though, so I generally feel fairly secure, even when it is not warranted.

[poopoo333]

idk, I just think physiques like this:




are way more badass looking then bodybuilders/jean claude van damme

[MMA_scientist]

This thread was already off the tracks. But SPX just took it to an extremely gay weird place.

True fact, most women don't give a shit about your muscles. As long you aren't fat, they don't care. You can even be sort of fat, just as long as you are like a giant fat ass, you are good to go. There are always exceptions, but I have found this to be mostly true.

X, just tell me, do you have sex with men. I don't care, but I need to know.

[poopoo333]

^^LOL hahhahahaha ahahahahha