UFC on Versus 3 March 3rd

[Svino]

Well the lines on both Cantwell and Palhares look like they might be getting better.

[poopoo333]

The only thing holding me back from betting on Cantwell is that he has not fought since UFC 97. I think Cantwell is going to sub Diabate.

[edman5555]

I was hoping to get Palhares at a better line actually. No such luck. I am at work now so i'll have to research this when I get home.

[Svino]

I'm surprised Palhares isn't a bigger favorite.

[poopoo333]

Joe Stevenson is -170 to Danny Castillo...but I am not sure about this fight

[poopoo333]

^^lines are up on bookmaker. I just took Branch @+185 and Page @+290. Chris Weidman is -110, I thought he would be @ + numbers so I am staying away from it now

[poopoo333]

^^Is that going to be apart of one of your parlays?

I am guessing the rest of the lines will be released for this card today. The fights are in 2 days.. I think I am going to call off of work Thursday night

[MMA_scientist]

Kampann will not be subbing Diego.

[trotterz]

I would think the standup edge will def be going to kampmann. What do you guys think his chances are of subbing Diego?

I see no way at all that kampmann could beat diego by submission. Diego's defense to submission is just too good. In the same way as mayhem miller. He fought far better grappler than kampmann and never got submitted.
Have you even seen him in the countdown shows for his older fights? he is training really bad to not get submitted. I remeber seeing him putting himself in a rear naked choke situation with a rope in his neck, and pulling on it the hardest he could and the longest too, just so he could resist the more possible in that situation.

I think that kampmann could win that fight, but if he does, it won't be by submission

[edman5555]

I would think the standup edge will def be going to kampmann. What do you guys think his chances are of subbing Diego?

[edman5555]

Diego commits to takedowns BTW. He powers through.

[edman5555]

In the hathaway fight Diego went in for a takedown and got kneed in the face. He was on queer street from that point on. The same thing happened to him in the BJ fight. Obv there is a whole other issue with Diego constantly getting kneed in the face but you can't help but wonder if he would have done better against them had he not gotten caught in the first 2 minutes of those fights.

Also, Kampann gets taken down a decent amount. Condit got him down, Shields got him down and def would have done a better job of it if he didn't gas.

I really don't know who wins this. I feel like Diego is going to take him down to win a decision but Kampmann is very talented any he has a great guillotine.

[zY|]

Oh shit, there's a fight on fuckin thursday.

[Svino]

Maybe Garcia's goal is not be good, but just to put a show and maybe pick up a bonus here an there. In all fairness, if he fought more intelligently, his record would probably be the same, and he would probably be out of the UFC because he really is not very good or memorable aside from his wild windmilling.

Yeah, it's like we were talking about in the other thread. The way the UFC is run, it's like there are two different paths you can take to success: you can focus on winning matches (and maybe being boring), or you can focus on being exciting / outrageous and sucking up to Dana.

[SPX]

In all fairness, if he fought more intelligently, his record would probably be the same, and he would probably be out of the UFC because he really is not very good or memorable aside from his wild windmilling.

This is probably true. Sometimes fighters just don't have the tools to be great. It doesn't matter who they train with or what style they go with.

I also think that some fighters make unorthodox styles work, and that's probably what works best for them. I've heard people criticize Machida because he doesn't fight like a kickboxer, but if he did, would he be any better than he already is? Probably not. And it may be that his style is the reason that he has gotten as far as he has.