2011 Off topic thread(basketball,movies,etc whatever)

[Luke]

I really will fight you.

I'll kick you in your pumpkin head

[SPX]

I don't know anything about him, but his grappling is really basic, like a guy that watched the moves but didn't have very many reps in. Not knocking him, but compared to the wrestlers and Royce, he was way behind in any one area. But I was more just marveling at how much just a little bit of well roundedness could get you back then (and for self defense).

It was basic, but light-years ahead for the time, really.

I actually used to have an RBWI video series and Jennum was in it. When I saw it, I was like holy shit, that's Steve Jennum! And it was. He was there, basically getting beat up on by Robert Bussey.

Bussey is a pioneer, and really something of a legend, in martial arts. He originally trained in traditional ninjutsu, and even went to Japan to train. He then took this traditional base and updated it, adding in techniques from other martial arts and taking a more "modern" approach in general. His system that Jennum trained in wasn't heavily oriented toward grappling, but there would've been some basic stuff like hip tosses and armbars.

[Luke]

fucking Memphis blowing the game in OT

[SPX]

Bowen wasnt a good boxer from what I recall .There's a reason a 20 something "boxer" is fighting MMA for a chance at 60k ...........he isnt a good boxer

I don't know how to read boxing records really (i.e. I know what's "good" in boxing is different than MMA), but FWIW:

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=5116&cat=boxer

[SPX]

fucking Memphis blowing the game in OT

My dad was giving me updates on that. Apparently they allowed it to go into overtime when they were ahead with like 1.7 seconds to go. Retarded.

[SPX]

BTW, apparently Royce's wins over Jason DeLucia and Kimo are also via "armlock."

[zY|]

Memphis didn't allow shit. The Spurs are just refusing to lose.

[Luke]

While we're on a boxer -BJJ match........ most boxers wouldnt stand a chance of ever being a good MMA fighter cause for the most part they have chicken legs. Even people like Holyfield who has a massive neck and torso has chicken legs . They are built to move for 12 rounds not takedowns. I think Mike Tyson would have had a chance though he had huge ,thick legs (no homo)

[Luke]

Memphis didn't allow shit. The Spurs are just refusing to lose.

What were they doing in those 3 loses?

[SPX]

I love Mike Tyson. I think he would've been good at MMA if he had had the time to train appropriately and enter the sport at a young age.

[zY|]

Did you not see the fucking shots they hit?

[Svino]

BTW, apparently Royce's wins over Jason DeLucia and Kimo are also via "armlock."

I don't know, I just thought any arm-based submission could be called an "armlock" - with armbar, keylock etc. being more specific descriptions.

Wasn't Royce's submission of DeLucia some funky combination choke / armbar?

[Luke]

What were they doing in those 3 loses?

Did you not see the fucking shots they hit?

Why do you always answer a question with a question?

[Luke]

Did you not see the fucking shots they hit?

No, did they go in the hoop?

[SPX]

I don't know, I just thought any arm-based submission could be called an "armlock" - with armbar, keylock etc. being more specific descriptions.

I don't disagree, but in terms of official records, they need to choose a path. Is every armlock an "armlock" or are we going to record it by it's proper name?

Wasn't Royce's submission of DeLucia some funky combination choke / armbar?

I just watched it and it was a straight up armbar from the bottom.

That Royce held onto for way too fucking long.